Aaa come on guys. Why not give FS a little credit here. You can rest
assured that they are indeed looking at Vista and preparing to take the
necessary steps to make JFW work with it. It stands to reason that FS would
not want to make JFW's functionality with Vista seamless while Microsoft
continues to change some of Vista's code. Do not underestimate Freedom
Scientifics' ability to be on top of their game, even when you think they
are not.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Keith Gillard
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 8:48 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Fw: Windows vista support and jaws
So it's your informed? opinion that Fs should not be working with the beta
in order to contribute to the accessibility of Vista and jaws?
Seems to me that I've been fighting all my life in support of building in
accessibility from the ground up, instead of retrofitting. If a leader in
screen reader technology doesn't show initiative then why should anyone
else?
Show me the money again...Keith
Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Windows vista support and jaws
I take this as an indicator that FS should wait until Vista is out, so
they'll know exactly what they have to do for accessibility.
Bruce
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Keith Gillard wrote:
I think this is a timely post. Let's see if we can persuade FS to be more
proactive this time eh?
Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <Programming@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <Windows@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
<Jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:38 PM
Subject: Windows vista support and jaws
Hi all,
Sorry for the cross posting but I felt this was important.
As some of you know, I am testing the beta of windows vista and have been
for a little while now, since beta 1 ...
Well, in the course of this testing: I was surprised to find out that jaws
installed and worked correctly, which is good news I suppose ... However,
I
have found out that this is really been dumb luck on the part of
FreedomScientific, since in the latest beta build of 5270 ... Jaws has
stopped working. The install still proceeds without a hitch, but jaws
can't
install the video intercept anymore.
The reason I bring any of this up is that I have been talking to the
wonderful folks at FreedomScientific, who have told me that they will not
even start working on windows vista until it is released.
I just thought you should know, since many of the people on these lists
use
jaws, followed by windoweyes, followed by hal/supernova.
It is interesting to note that GWMicro seems to be much more sensible in
that they already profess to have minor compatibility. While I do not use
their product except for testing and other similar situations: I would
like
to applaud them for actually caring.
If you all wish ... Maybe a storm/torrent of emails to FreedomScientific
would get them to admit something more about their plans for vista. I
can't
say I am surprised at all by FS's actions, as it is no more than I
expected
from Erick Damerie, but I also will say that I have confidence in the
power
of the people on this list ... We have some of the more prominent users on
these lists due to educational background, experience with the product,
and
so forth ... Maybe you all can make a difference.
In the mean time ... It seems my usefulness in testing windows vista is at
a
stand still ... Disgust hardly comes close to what I feel towards FS right
now. I honestly have more respect for people who make graphical
verification
software than I do towards FreedomScientific.
Have a pleasant day, everyone.
Take care,
Sina
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