RE: Fw: Windows vista support and jaws

  • From: "Jim Grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:55:29 -0800

Hi, agreed but un like bruce I am torn.  For the programmer this is the
best way to do this.  For the user that wants to stay on the cutting
edge it is not the best thing they could be doing.
The longer they wait to start working on the problem the longer us users
are going to have to wait.


jim grimsby 
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 7:13 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Fw: Windows vista support and jaws


What I'm thinking FS will probably do is build support for Vista in
their 
next full release, or the first full release of JAWS after Vista is 
released. Hopefully, users of Vista won't have to wait too long for it.

At 09:01 PM 1/16/2006, you wrote:
>Not if the next beta is just going to break support, and FS winds up
>having to release 20 updates over teh course of the next year to
support a 
>product that isn't available to the general public yet.
>
>Bruce
>
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>On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Sun Sparkle wrote:
>
>>but since vista betas are already out wouldn't it be praticull to take
>>advantage of that ?
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 7:30 PM
>>Subject: Re: Fw: Windows vista support and jaws
>>
>>
>>>I take this as an indicator that FS should wait until Vista is out, 
>>>so
>>>they'll know exactly what they have to do for accessibility.
>>>
>>>  Bruce
>>>
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>>>  On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Keith Gillard wrote:
>>> >  I think this is a timely post.  Let's see if we can persuade FS 
>>> > to
>>> be >  more
>>> >  proactive this time eh?
>>> > >  Keith
>>> > >  ----- Original Message -----
>>> >  From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >  To: <Programming@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 
>>> > <Windows@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;  
>>> > <Jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >  Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:38 PM
>>> >  Subject: Windows vista support and jaws
>>> > > >  Hi all,
>>> > >  Sorry for the cross posting but I felt this was important.  As 
>>> > > some of you know, I am testing the beta of windows vista and
>>> have >  been
>>> >  for a little while now, since beta 1 ...
>>> > >  Well, in the course of this testing: I was surprised to find 
>>> > > out
>>> that >  jaws
>>> >  installed and worked correctly, which is good news I suppose
>>> ... >  However, I
>>> >  have found out that this is really been dumb luck on the part of

>>> > FreedomScientific, since in the latest beta build of 5270 ... Jaws

>>> > has  stopped working. The install still proceeds without a hitch, 
>>> > but
>>> jaws >  can't
>>> >  install the video intercept anymore.
>>> > >  The reason I bring any of this up is that I have been talking 
>>> > > to the
>>> >  wonderful folks at FreedomScientific, who have told me that they
>>> will >  not
>>> >  even start working on windows vista until it is released.
>>> > >  I just thought you should know, since many of the people on 
>>> > > these
>>> lists >  use
>>> >  jaws, followed by windoweyes, followed by hal/supernova.
>>> > >  It is interesting to note that GWMicro seems to be much more
>>> sensible in
>>> >  that they already profess to have minor compatibility. While I do
>>> not >  use
>>> >  their product except for testing and other similar situations: I
>>> would >  like
>>> >  to applaud them for actually caring.
>>> > >  If you all wish ... Maybe a storm/torrent of emails to
>>> FreedomScientific
>>> >  would get them to admit something more about their plans for 
>>> > vista.
>>> I >  can't
>>> >  say I am surprised at all by FS's actions, as it is no more than
>>> I >  expected
>>> >  from Erick Damerie, but I also will say that I have confidence in
>>> the >  power
>>> >  of the people on this list ... We have some of the more prominent
>>> users >  on
>>> >  these lists due to educational background, experience with the
>>> product, >  and
>>> >  so forth ... Maybe you all can make a difference.
>>> > >  In the mean time ... It seems my usefulness in testing windows
>>> vista is >  at a
>>> >  stand still ... Disgust hardly comes close to what I feel towards
>>> FS >  right
>>> >  now. I honestly have more respect for people who make
>>> graphical >  verification
>>> >  software than I do towards FreedomScientific.
>>> > >  Have a pleasant day, everyone.
>>> > >  Take care,
>>> >  Sina
>>> > >
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