RE: Fw: Windows vista support and jaws

  • From: "Dave S" <dspeck@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:41:28 -0500

I'll let you know, after, the new operating system comes out.  I am not one
to predict the future as many of the users on this list attempt to do.  I am
not a profit. 


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Sun Sparkle
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:16 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Fw: Windows vista support and jaws

but what if you would have to switch to pro jaws instead of jaws standard? 
and also needed the sixtrix support to run jaws on vista? just something to
consider if you had to upgrad to pro jaws would you do it to use windows
vista?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave S" <dspeck@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:17 AM
Subject: RE: Fw: Windows vista support and jaws


> Aaa come on guys.  Why not give FS a little credit here.  You can rest 
> assured that they are indeed looking at Vista and preparing to take 
> the necessary steps to make JFW work with it.  It stands to reason 
> that FS would not want to make JFW's functionality with Vista seamless 
> while Microsoft continues to change some of Vista's code.  Do not 
> underestimate Freedom Scientifics' ability to be on top of their game, 
> even when you think they are not.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Keith Gillard
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 8:48 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Fw: Windows vista support and jaws
>
> So it's your informed? opinion that Fs should not be working with the 
> beta in order to contribute to the accessibility of Vista and jaws?
>
> Seems to me that I've been fighting all my life in support of building 
> in accessibility from the ground up, instead of retrofitting.  If a 
> leader in screen reader technology doesn't show initiative then why 
> should anyone else?
>
> Show me the money again...Keith
>
>
> Keith
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: Windows vista support and jaws
>
>
> I take this as an indicator that FS should wait until Vista is out, so 
> they'll know exactly what they have to do for accessibility.
>
> Bruce
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> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Keith Gillard wrote:
>
>> I think this is a timely post.  Let's see if we can persuade FS to be 
>> more proactive this time eh?
>
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <Programming@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <Windows@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
>> <Jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:38 PM
>> Subject: Windows vista support and jaws
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Sorry for the cross posting but I felt this was important.
>>
>> As some of you know, I am testing the beta of windows vista and have been
>> for a little while now, since beta 1 ...
>>
>> Well, in the course of this testing: I was surprised to find out that 
>> jaws
>> installed and worked correctly, which is good news I suppose ... However,
>> I
>> have found out that this is really been dumb luck on the part of
>> FreedomScientific, since in the latest beta build of 5270 ... Jaws has
>> stopped working. The install still proceeds without a hitch, but jaws
>> can't
>> install the video intercept anymore.
>>
>> The reason I bring any of this up is that I have been talking to the
>> wonderful folks at FreedomScientific, who have told me that they will not
>> even start working on windows vista until it is released.
>>
>> I just thought you should know, since many of the people on these lists
>> use
>> jaws, followed by windoweyes, followed by hal/supernova.
>>
>> It is interesting to note that GWMicro seems to be much more sensible in
>> that they already profess to have minor compatibility. While I do not use
>> their product except for testing and other similar situations: I would
>> like
>> to applaud them for actually caring.
>>
>> If you all wish ... Maybe a storm/torrent of emails to FreedomScientific
>> would get them to admit something more about their plans for vista. I
>> can't
>> say I am surprised at all by FS's actions, as it is no more than I
>> expected
>> from Erick Damerie, but I also will say that I have confidence in the
>> power
>> of the people on this list ... We have some of the more prominent users 
>> on
>> these lists due to educational background, experience with the product,
>> and
>> so forth ... Maybe you all can make a difference.
>>
>> In the mean time ... It seems my usefulness in testing windows vista is 
>> at
>
>> a
>> stand still ... Disgust hardly comes close to what I feel towards FS 
>> right
>> now. I honestly have more respect for people who make graphical
>> verification
>> software than I do towards FreedomScientific.
>>
>> Have a pleasant day, everyone.
>>
>> Take care,
>> Sina
>>
>>
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