Internally yes. Meaning that if they have a beta of vista witch I am sure they do working on it in the lab is worth there wiled putting it out in the general public is not. So if they work on it from the lab when the rc comes out they can get the final bugs out and then they should be able to relieve on or soon after the final relice date. Now I am willing to wager that is what they are doing here. Now gw micro has maid changes to there current code and relieced it to support vista but I am sure they only did this because it coincided with the devopement sycal. jim grimsby msn: jim.grimsby@xxxxxxx email: jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx skype: jim.grimsby -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sun Sparkle Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:43 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Fw: Windows vista support and jaws but since vista betas are already out wouldn't it be praticull to take advantage of that ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 7:30 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Windows vista support and jaws >I take this as an indicator that FS should wait until Vista is out, so >they'll know exactly what they have to do for accessibility. > > Bruce > > -- > Bruce Toews > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com > > On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Keith Gillard wrote: > >> I think this is a timely post. Let's see if we can persuade FS to be >> more >> proactive this time eh? >> >> Keith >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <Programming@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; >> <Windows@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <Jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:38 PM >> Subject: Windows vista support and jaws >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> Sorry for the cross posting but I felt this was important. >> >> As some of you know, I am testing the beta of windows vista and have >> been for a little while now, since beta 1 ... >> >> Well, in the course of this testing: I was surprised to find out that >> jaws >> installed and worked correctly, which is good news I suppose ... However, >> I >> have found out that this is really been dumb luck on the part of >> FreedomScientific, since in the latest beta build of 5270 ... Jaws has >> stopped working. The install still proceeds without a hitch, but jaws >> can't >> install the video intercept anymore. >> >> The reason I bring any of this up is that I have been talking to the >> wonderful folks at FreedomScientific, who have told me that they will >> not even start working on windows vista until it is released. >> >> I just thought you should know, since many of the people on these >> lists >> use >> jaws, followed by windoweyes, followed by hal/supernova. >> >> It is interesting to note that GWMicro seems to be much more sensible >> in that they already profess to have minor compatibility. While I do >> not use their product except for testing and other similar >> situations: I would like to applaud them for actually caring. >> >> If you all wish ... Maybe a storm/torrent of emails to >> FreedomScientific would get them to admit something more about their >> plans for vista. I can't say I am surprised at all by FS's actions, >> as it is no more than I expected >> from Erick Damerie, but I also will say that I have confidence in the >> power >> of the people on this list ... We have some of the more prominent users >> on >> these lists due to educational background, experience with the product, >> and >> so forth ... Maybe you all can make a difference. >> >> In the mean time ... It seems my usefulness in testing windows vista >> is >> at a >> stand still ... Disgust hardly comes close to what I feel towards FS >> right >> now. I honestly have more respect for people who make graphical >> verification >> software than I do towards FreedomScientific. >> >> Have a pleasant day, everyone. >> >> Take care, >> Sina >> >> >> _____________________________________________________________ >> >> To leave this list, send a blank message to >> windows-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Information about all of our lists: >> http://blindprogramming.com/mailman/listinfo >> Other blindness lists: >> http://www.visionrx.com/library/resources/resource_int1.asp >> Web site address: http://www.BlindProgramming.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Windows mailing list >> Windows@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> http://blindprogramming.com/mailman/listinfo/windows_blindprogramming >> .com_____________________________________________________________ >> To leave this list, send a blank message to >> Windows-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> For information about this list, visit >> http://blindprogramming.com/mailman/listinfo/windows_blindprogramming.co m >> For problems with the list, email Windows-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Information about all of our lists: >> http://blindprogramming.com/mailman/listinfo >> Other blindness lists: >> http://www.visionrx.com/library/resources/resource_int1.asp >> Web site address: http://www.BlindProgramming.com >> >> -- >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To >> unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject >> line. 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