Does anyone know how well the latest version of WordPerfect and their entire office suite works with Jaws? My wife is really sold on it and has said that we might do better to look into installing that on our home pc when upgrade time comes around to keep abreast of the times. She says it interfaces just about exactly the same as pre 07 word and you can convert .doc files to WordPerfect and vise versa. NO ribbon to worry about and none in the works. WP might be back on the ascendency again and be the word processor of choice like it was back about ten or fifteen years ago before Word really started chewing them up and spitting them out. Thing is, I haven't used it in years and years and I don't know anything about Quatro or their database app or their e-mail client. How does jaws do with it?
Alex----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <bruce@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:28 AM Subject: Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007 Microsoft has made it clear that the ribbon is their way of the future. We can either accept it or not. It is accessible, so there are no valid complaints in that respect. It's just a question of is it worth an individual's while to upgrade. If the answer is yes, great. If the answer is no, no sense whining about it, just don't, no biggy. Bruce On Sat, 23 May 2009, Sue B wrote:
Alex,
Your advice is perfect! The only advantage to having office 2007 right
now that I've seen is that sometimes those who have it send attachments
with the .docx extension that can't be opened with earlier versions of
Word. Then you have to e-mail the sender and get them to convert it and
resend. A real pain. I don't think learning Office 2007 is a huge crisis,
but it is a productivity killer if it is installed on your computer and
you have to hit the ground running with it. I haven't even personally put
it on my main laptop that I used for most tasks because it just feels so
cumbersome. The only think I can hope for is that Microsoft hears all of
the terrible feedback about that product and does something to remedy it.
Sue B.
Alex Midence wrote:
Dude, I'm gonna tell it to ya straight. Don't listen to
anybody trying to sell you on 2007. Especially, don't let
them do it to you if you're using office applications to do
your job. It is one major productivity killer. If you want
to upgrade, get 2003. You can buy it on eBay for a couple
hundred dollars if you don't mind going that route. Just
make sure the ad says it's brand new and stil in the box. If
you go 2007, just pretend you got yourself a whole new
wordprocessor to learn. Go in with the mentality of a
rookie/newbie because all your old hotkey friends are no
more. Most folks just don't have that kind of time. They
buy the same software's upgrades when they come out because
they expect to just be able to jump right in and start
working and producing the same output of work as they did
with the prior version if not more. If they wanted to learn
a whole new piece of software, they'd've bought wordperfect
or something. Jaws still works great with 2003 and you can
still hit the ground running with it straight out of the box
coming from office 2000. Don't just take my word for it on
how bad 07 is. Just google "hate office 2007" and you'll see
what I mean by productivity killer. I wish with all my heart
that I could go back to 2003 at the office but, everyone's
been migrated and we are all still fussing and cussing about
it and it's been like 2 months already since the upgrade.
I'm telling you, it's just NOT worth it. It is one royal,
unmitigated, colossal, ferocious, and persistent pain in the
back side. Only reason I'm not using any more adjectives is
because I ran out of clean ones and, as usual when I think of
this thing, I find myself in great need of some scotch.
One man's opinion,
Alex
----- Original Message -----
From: Yardbird
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007
Hi Sue,
I'm still using one of the older versions of Word, but feel
as if it might be a practical idea to buy and install Word
2007 one of these days in order not to be left behind with
decreasing jaws support for my Word 2000. But I don't even
know a couple of basic things, like can you just purchase
Word 2007 alone, or must you get it as part of that office
suite, and is that an expensive proposition? And second, how
does a Jaws user learn to use Word 2007 and its notorious
ribbon? Is there a tutorial or an instruction manual for it
somewhere online?
thanks.
Joel
----- Original Message -----
From: Sue B
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007
I'm going to throw my two cents worth in on this one. I agree
with George that those menus aren't really all that useful.
If you are new to MS Office then skip them altogether and
learn how the ribbons work. If you are firmly attached to the
menus as they were used in earlier versions of MS Office,
then these might be useful for finding commands that you
don't have keystrokes already memorized for. However, they
don't just add the menu bar back so that you can go on with
things as you always did, there is still new stuff to learn.
I've found in teaching that I can teach someone who was
familiar with the menus to use the ribbons in about as much
time as it takes to teach them to find and then navigate
these add-ins. My vote is that if you are using JAWS 10, I'd
go for taking the time to learn how to navigate the ribbons.
In case anyone is anxious about the switch to Office 2007,
most of the dialog boxes, once you get to them from the
ribbon, are the same as the ones in Office 2003 were, so
getting to the options you need isn't really all that
different.
Sue B.
George B wrote:
Dave eather have I they are kind of confusing let
me know what you figure out.
"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I
cannot change, The courage to change the things
that I can, and the wisdom to know the
difference.
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 04:11
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007
Anyone actually tried to use these? They seem to be
templates but I've not been able to make them work.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Gerald Levy
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 03:55
Subject: Re: page layout in word 2007
I can go one step further. Below is the link to
a web site from which you can download a free
add-on to Word 2007 that adds the classic Word
2003 menus. This way, you can have your cake and
eat it too. If you are befuddled by Word 2007's
ribbon menus, you can just switch to the more
familiar Word 2003 menus.
http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/menuaddins
Gerald
----- Original Message -----
From: Curtis Jackson
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:20 PM
Subject: RE: page layout in word 2007
Can you tell me what Kim koomandos web site
is please?
________________________________________________________________________________
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Dave Mitchell
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 5:52 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: page layout in word 2007
Hi, Kim Koomando posted a program on her
Cool Site of the Day on May 19th that
described a free program to replace the
Word 2007 Ribbon with all your familiar
menus.
If you search her site I expect you can
find this particular post and the link to
the company that provides the download.
Good luck, Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Carlson
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: page layout in word 2007
John,
Welcome to the confusing world of
Office 2007 and the ribbon!
You'll probably spend a lot of time
groping around the ribbon, looking
for your old familiar dialog boxes.
It wasn't easy for me.
Simply to answer your question:
Alt-p
Down arrow
Tab 4 times
Enter
Dave
----- Original Message
-----
From: John Fioravanti
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009
14:16
Subject: page layout in word
2007
Hi: I just installed word 2007
and when I go to page layout to
hopefully get to margin
setings, it says hit tab
or shiftt Alt followed by p.
when I use tab or shift tab it
talks about help and alt and P
do nothing. Any help would be
appreciated. John Fioravanti
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