Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007

  • From: Yardbird <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 10:46:18 -0700

Alex,

your points are very well taken. As I'm not in an office situation where 
everyone's equipment is being upgraded, the decision is mine alone to make. And 
that means I'll stick with Word 2000 just for my own reasons until FS stops 
supporting it, and then I'll just launch 2003, instead, which is already on my 
computer but which I choose not to use for a specific reason that I don't wish 
to argue about with well-meaning folks. 

So no worries. I mean about either me tearing out my last few hairs, or you 
running out of non-vulgar imprecations.

Joel
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Rose Combs 
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 10:34 AM
Subject: RE: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007


If you spend a few minutes investigating the ribbons and using the tutorials 
available, office 2007 is just about the same is 2003, and if you already know 
keystrokes for items they are still able to be used.  Sure there is a learning 
curve, as with any program but it really isn't as bad as some make out.  I 
admit I'd prefer the menus but I can work with I have and, National Braille 
Press sells books on shortcut or keyboard commands that are helpful and 
inexpensive.  

 

If you don't need to upgrade don't but, if your job requires it, or if you are 
just wanting to keep up-to-date, it isn't as horrible as some programs that 
have you constantly in the Jaws cursor mode clicking on everything etc.  

 

 

Rose Combs

rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx

 

From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Alex Midence
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 7:21 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007

 

Dude, I'm gonna tell it to ya straight.  Don't listen to anybody trying to sell 
you on 2007.  Especially, don't let them do it to you if you're using office 
applications to do your job.  It is one major productivity killer.  If you want 
to upgrade, get 2003.  You can buy it on eBay for a couple hundred dollars if 
you don't mind going that route.  Just make sure the ad says it's brand new and 
stil in the box.  If you go 2007, just pretend you got yourself a whole new 
wordprocessor to learn.  Go in with the mentality of a rookie/newbie because 
all your old hotkey friends are no more.  Most folks just don't have that kind 
of time.  They buy the same software's upgrades when they come out because they 
expect to just be able to jump right in and start working and producing the 
same output of work as they did with the prior version if not more.  If they 
wanted to learn a whole new piece of software, they'd've bought wordperfect or 
something.  Jaws still works great with 2003 and you can still hit the ground 
running with it straight out of the box coming from office 2000.  Don't just 
take my word for it on how bad 07 is.  Just google "hate office 2007" and 
you'll see what I mean by productivity killer.  I wish with all my heart that I 
could go back to 2003 at the office but, everyone's been migrated and we are 
all still fussing and cussing about it and it's been like 2 months already 
since the upgrade.  I'm telling you, it's just NOT worth it.  It is one royal, 
unmitigated, colossal, ferocious, and persistent pain in the back side.  Only 
reason I'm not using any more adjectives is because I ran out of clean ones 
and, as usual when I think of this thing, I find myself in great need of some 
scotch.

 

One man's opinion,

Alex

 

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: Yardbird 

  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

  Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 10:25 AM

  Subject: Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007

   

  Hi Sue,

   

  I'm still using one of the older versions of Word, but feel as if it might be 
a practical idea to buy and install Word 2007 one of these days in order not to 
be left behind with decreasing jaws support for my Word 2000. But I don't even 
know a couple of basic things, like can you just purchase Word 2007 alone, or 
must you get it as part of that office suite, and is that an expensive 
proposition? And second, how does a Jaws user learn to use Word 2007 and its 
notorious ribbon? Is there a tutorial or an instruction manual for it somewhere 
online?

   

  thanks.

  Joel

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: Sue B 

  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

  Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 6:01 AM

  Subject: Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007

   

  I'm going to throw my two cents worth in on this one. I agree with George 
that those menus aren't really all that useful. If you are new to MS Office 
then skip them altogether and learn how the ribbons work. If you are firmly 
attached to the menus as they were used in earlier versions of MS Office, then 
these might be useful for finding commands that you don't have keystrokes 
already memorized for. However, they don't just add the menu bar back so that 
you can go on with things as you always did, there is still new stuff to learn. 
I've found in teaching that I can teach someone who was familiar with the menus 
to use the ribbons in about as much time as it takes to teach them to find and 
then navigate these add-ins.  My vote is that if you are using JAWS 10, I'd go 
for taking the time to learn how to navigate the ribbons. In case anyone is 
anxious about the switch to Office 2007, most of the dialog boxes, once you get 
to them from the ribbon, are the same as the ones in Office 2003 were, so 
getting to the options you need isn't really all that different.

  Sue B.

  George B wrote: 

  Dave eather have I they are kind of confusing let me know what you figure out.

  "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, The courage 
to change the things that I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

  From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Dave Carlson
  Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 04:11
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007

  Anyone actually tried to use these? They seem to be templates but I've not 
been able to make them work.

  Dave

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Gerald Levy 

    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

    Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 03:55

    Subject: Re: page layout in word 2007

    I can go one step further.  Below is the link to a web site from which you 
can download a free add-on to Word 2007 that adds the classic Word 2003 menus.  
This way, you can have your cake and eat it too.  If you are befuddled by Word 
2007's ribbon menus, you can just switch to the more familiar Word 2003 menus.

    http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/menuaddins

    Gerald 

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Curtis Jackson 

      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

      Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:20 PM

      Subject: RE: page layout in word 2007

      Can you tell me what Kim koomandos web site is please?


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      From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Dave Mitchell
      Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 5:52 PM
      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: Re: page layout in word 2007

      Hi,  Kim Koomando posted a program on her Cool Site of the Day on May 
19th that described a free program to replace the Word 2007 Ribbon with all 
your familiar menus.

      If you search her site I expect you can find this particular post and the 
link to the company that provides the download.  Good luck, Mitch

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Dave Carlson 

        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

        Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:20 PM

        Subject: Re: page layout in word 2007

        John,

        Welcome to the confusing world of Office 2007 and the ribbon!

        You'll probably spend a lot of time groping around the ribbon, looking 
for your old familiar dialog boxes. It wasn't easy for me.

        Simply to answer your question:

        Alt-p

        Down arrow

        Tab 4 times

        Enter

        Dave

          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: John Fioravanti 

          To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

          Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 14:16

          Subject: page layout in word 2007

          Hi: I just installed word 2007 and when I go to page layout to 
hopefully get to margin setings, it says hit tab or shiftt Alt followed by p. 
when I use tab or shift tab it talks about help and alt and P do nothing. Any 
help would be appreciated. John Fioravanti


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