Hi Jane, The company is Computer Associates. The program being spoken of is: MyEtrust EZ antivirus Personal Edition, to give it its full definition. $29.95 as new, excl. VAT. Version 7 of it is quite inaccessible to any screen reader, thus my previous message as written below etc. The Web site is a fairly complicated affair, an URL that isn't easy to remember, and is also somewhat of a pain to navigate. ETrust EZ Armor also has a firewall, plus a number of other suites aimed at different types of user - personal, enterprise, professional, etc. The antivirus program works well. But until they actually do bring out version 7 (accessible), or whatever version (accessible), and/or the situation therewith is improved over what it is now, one cannot recommend it to a blind screen reader user who doesn't already have the program. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Sellers" <jane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:00 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: what anti virus checker? Hi Flora, What is e trust for those of us who are new to antivirus and list can you explain what it is please ? thank you in advance. from Jane ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:05 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: what anti virus checker? > Hi, > > There is still a version of ETrust that is accessible to screen readers > that will work with the updates. It is known as version 6.4.4. What > one can do, if they're using version 7 of it, is download this version > 6.4.4 from the ftp link below; then uninstall version 7 from their > computer; then install 6.4.4. Unlike version 7, even the installation > dialogue speaks properly through JAWS. (the user interface is much as > the older one was.) And Here's the ftp link for the - accessible - > MyEtrust version 6.4.4 > > ftp://ftp.ca.com/pub/myeTrust/test/EZAntivirus6.4.exe > > I'm using it myself, having uninstalled version 7. > > They are indeed aware of the improbability of access by screen readers > to their version 7, as they admit it themselves now. I also have heard > (privately that 'the future build' of ETrust 'will be accessible to > screen readers'. (They didn't have a release date when writing that.) > I have an american friend who uses it and who is in regular email > contact with them - she's a campaigning sort. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tris-l@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 1:44 PM > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: what anti virus checker? > > > I took a fairly quick admittedly, but first impressions were not > promising. > I downloaded and installed this nore than two weeks ago. > > Regards. > > Tristram Llewellyn > Sight and Sound Technology > Technical Support > www.sightandsound.co.uk > > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: "TIDDYogg" <oggy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:04 AM > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: what anti virus checker? > > > On the subject of EZ antivirus. Having bought the latest version, and > found its accessibility limitations, I notified their help line. They > said > they had passed my points on to management... but having changed my > e-mail > address since, and forgotten the pasword for the old one, I know not if > any > mods will be carried out. > > ----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tris-l@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:57 AM > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: what anti virus checker? > > > > Thanks for letting us know, it sounds like a fair option, I remember > using > > it many years ago. I was dissapointed with EZ Trust on the > accessibility > > front because I wanted to recommend that one to Jaws users as it > really > > gives no trouble on my home PC. Fortunately I don't depend on Jaws so > > taking a punt at one of these counts as useful research. > > > > Regards. > > > > Tristram Llewellyn > > Sight and Sound Technology > > Technical Support > > www.sightandsound.co.uk > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pete" <noizypete@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:33 AM > > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: what anti virus checker? > > > > > > Tristram, > > > > F-Prot is available on 30 day evaluation, I took this before > purchasing it > > last year and found it to be extremely JFW friendly and effective at > > stopping suspicious files in their tracks. > > > > Regards, > > > > Pete H > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tris-l@xxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:06 AM > > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: what anti virus checker? > > > > > >> Firstly AVG 7 should not stop Jaws talking, I would suggest something > >> else > >> is at work here, perhaps you downloaded the firewall product as well, > >> some > >> firewalls will stop Jaws 5.1 or above from speaking, but AVG 7.0 on > it's > >> own > >> should not, it still should be a contender. > >> > >> I can also verifiy that the latest EZ trust anti-virus isn't that > >> accessible. This is a shame it used to be and it's not a bad package > >> either. > >> > >> The F-prot sounds like an interesting lead, if there is a demo > version it > >> may be worth trying that. > >> > >> There are of course the more obvious Norton and MacAfee products, > they > >> have > >> their uses but also their limitations as regards smooth running of > >> systems > >> and generally being able to drive them. > >> > >> Regards. > >> > >> Tristram Llewellyn > >> Sight and Sound Technology > >> Technical Support > >> www.sightandsound.co.uk > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Susan" <susan.beggs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:02 PM > >> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: what anti virus checker? > >> > >> > >> hi pete > >> > >> many thanks, > >> > >> i forgot to say in my mail to the list that if joe boots up the > computer > >> then puts > >> jaws on every thing seems to work ok, well thats as far as we can > see. > >> it's > >> only if > >> jaws is set to come on automatically that the problems start and jaws > >> stops > >> talking. > >> if any one knows what could be the problem please let us know as we > are > >> near > >> to > >> destraction as we have been having this problem for many months now. > >> susan > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Pete" <noizypete@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 10:10 PM > >> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: what anti virus checker? > >> > >> > >> Sorry Susan, silly me forgot to give you the URL: > >> http://f-prot.com > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Pete > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Susan" <susan.beggs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 9:20 PM > >> Subject: [jaws-uk] what anti virus checker? > >> > >> > >>> hi > >>> can any one help? > >>> what anti virus checker is most suitable with jaws 5 and xp home, my > >>> partner jow has > >>> a new computer and apparently as soon as we put on a v g anti virus > >>> checker version 7 > >>> jaws just stops talking after a while. > >>> > >>> this was also happening with his old computer with jaws 5 and > windows > >>> 98, > >>> as soon as > >>> he changed from a v g 6 to a v g 7 this was when the problem first > >>> started. > >>> > >>> many thanks > >>> Best Regards Susan. > >>> > >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > >>> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > >>> ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> ** and in the Subject line type > >>> ** unsubscribe > >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > >>> ** immediately-following link:- > >>> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > >>> ** or send a message, to > >>> ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > >>> > >> > >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following 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