Our ISA server had built in NICS. I used the cool feature of W2K to disable a NIC without having to remove it. But, seriously, I think ISA is solid product. One of our four ISA boxes is an old 500 Mhz AMD with a 20 Gig SCSI disk and 320 Mb Ram. Originally built as a test machine we just started using it as a production server for Central Office having about 100 users. Even with this "commodity" hardware the performance is fine and the downtime has been nonexistent. Shane -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 1:02 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence quickly ) http://www.ISAserver.org No kidding; and while you're at it, what's that mouse and keyboard thinky?!? ..and all those wires connecting everything? Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ http://isatools.org Read the help / books / articles! http://www.ISAserver.org Personally i find Network cards in an iSA box a real pain in the bum. I try to leave them out if i can or at least disable them. Greg Mulholland Tech Services Manager Harvey Norman greg_mul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Ph: +613 9881-3730 -----Original Message----- From: Vinay, G (ICRISAT-IN) [mailto:g.vinay@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, 4 June 2003 1:27 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence quickly ) http://www.ISAserver.org HI Mike, Earlier once i had the same problem of rebooting. But believe me it was a hardware fault in ISA box. I am sure that u need to check ur hardware ( mostly Memory chips, try disabling and enabling N/w cards). ISA is just fine and a true corporate firewall. Just chk ur hardware it should be fine. Vinay. MCSE,CCNA -----Original Message----- From: Mike-TechniSource [mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 8:49 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence quickly) http://www.ISAserver.org Hello, This is really getting on my nerves in a major way. About 2-3 times per day (sometimes more), our ISA Box reboots - and all the Event Viewer can tell us, is that the "System Shutdown Unexpectedly" (well no duh) - and there is nothing else of any value whatsoever, that tells us what it may have been. This is totally unacceptable - and I need to get to the bottom of it. Honestly - I've installed about 6 ISA Boxes - in several different corporate environments - and I am quickly losing confidence in ISA Server - as it just does not run like a true corporate firewall should. In every case, we install the software in a Windows 2000 domain environment, on ultra-quality Servers, SP1 & FP1, Windows 2000 SPx (the latest), etc. We are always patched with the latest software upgrades, and I own every ISA Book written (so needless to say, I do my homework). What could this be? ISA Server may be wonderful - but it's only as good as the Machine, and Operating System that it runs on top of. Maybe it's time to purchase an Internet Appliance for this mission critical task - as I can't bank my life on something that is unreliable. Is ISA Server truly a corporate solution??? Are all of you having good luck in general with the Software? I searched the Infobase on MS's site - and it comes back with NOTHING regarding random reboots, and other such topics. Is there anything I can check, that can narrow down why this is happening to us? Is it an attack potentially? I would appreciate any information that could help us out. 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