Re: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence quickly)
- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 20:31:27 -0500
Hi Mark,
LOL! No, I didn't think your post was blaming ISA -- I just decided to
jump into the fray after reading your post, but it wasn't in response to
what you said. You were an innocent bystander :)
Tom
Thomas W Shinder
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Strangways [mailto:strangconst@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 8:02 PM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence
quickly)
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Is my post being read as "I blame ISA server for my troubles" ?
I thought I was trying to say that my server hardware was to blame !!!
And I was trying to suggest that disabling ISA may show that the server
would crash and restart with out even ISA being a functioning service !
Perhaps I didn't phrase it correctly ?
Well, I hope it clears it up.
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 8:44 PM
Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence
quickly)
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Hi Mark,
Network troubleshooting must always start at the bottom of OSI. That's
why is always amazes me that people (including myself all too often)
blame ISA Server first, when the problem is a bad cable, a bad router, a
bad gateway address a bad subnet mask, and any number of other things.
The only real ISA Server specific problem I've ever had was related to
the dreaded NetBIOS node adapter status queries the ISA Server did for
inbound requests for published servers. Now that problems seems to be
solved and uptimes are in very good and service access is exemplary,
Thanks!
Tom
Thomas W Shinder
www.isaserver.org/shinder
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Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Strangways [mailto:strangconst@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 5:15 PM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence
quickly)
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I have the issues you describe.
My server reboots itself on a random basis.
I have been meaning to nuke and pave the systems for a while , but lack
the
desire to spend 6 hrs rebuilding it from the ground.
I know my server requires some new drives, and this is what is likely
causing my servers stress.
If you can keep the server offline from the internet, try to run the
server
with ISA disabled.
You will "likely" find that it will reboot with out ISA running.
But you will have to use it as a server in some form to make sure it's
taxed.
Perhaps disable the web cache if you use it.
Regards,
Mark S
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike-TechniSource" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 12:13 PM
Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence
quickly)
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Hello All,
Thank you for all your quick replies.
All of the things you mention are valid points - and I will narrow it
down that way. I guess I ruled some of the hardware issues out, due to
the server being an pre-existing server for some other critical services
previous to ISA being installed on there. Still, ISA may be stressing
the server in a different way, than previously before. Addressing
different memory locations, being ultra network intensive, etc.
Swapping the RAM is a wonderful idea - even know we never got any parity
errors, and so forth.
I appreciate your input - and also restoring my confidence in ISA Server
- as I really don't believe in dropping tons of cash on Internet
Appliances, when a PC running reasonably priced software *should* be
able to manage the task just as well (if not better).
Thanks!
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Deus, Attonbitus [mailto:Thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 11:08 AM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Reboots Periodically (losing confidence
quickly)
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At 08:18 AM 6/3/2003, you wrote:
>ISA Server may be wonderful - but it's only as good as the Machine, and
>Operating System that it runs on top of. Maybe it's time to purchase
>an Internet Appliance for this mission critical task - as I can't bank
>my life on something that is unreliable.
>
>Is ISA Server truly a corporate solution??? Are all of you having good
>luck in general with the Software?
I've been running multiple servers in multiple states since it shipped,
and
have not had any issues at all like that. The worst thing that happened
to
me was that a Trend Micro product kept the web proxy service from
starting,
but that is not ISA's problem.
The issue is not with ISA- you've got some funky hardware deal going on,
or
some other software conflict. What are your Startup/Recovery
Settings? I'd make sure to start writing a full memory dump and not
automatically restart- that way you can get to the bottom of it,
hopefully.
hth
T
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