[PCB_FORUM] Re: default-x.dlt file snafu
- From: "Macindoe, Gary" <Gary.Macindoe@xxxxxxx>
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- Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:46:06 -0600
Hey George,
I forgot to mention I'm on 15.5.7 (oops, should always state OS and Allegro
version).
We will move up to 16.0 about mid year, I guess I'll just put up with it till
then.
At least the company has standardized on Cadence, I almost had to switch to
Boardstation!!
George, I used to work in Redmond with Andy Niedzwiecke some years back. When
did he leave Tek?
That time was pretty traumatic for me, I had worked for Tektronix for 16 ½
years when they laid me off.
Thanks for all of your time George.
Gary E. MacIndoe
PCB Design Engineer
Fort Collins, Colorado
amd.com
gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx
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I am on 16.0, and it works., Gary. Are you on 15?
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Sent: Thu 1/10/2008 4:52 PM
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: default-x.dlt file snafu
Hi Gary,
The following line in a dlt file returns the expected result for me:
((150.0 70.0) "Plated" "+/- 0.2")
Running SPB_16.01. Maybe it's a release problem
Cheers, Dave
Macindoe, Gary wrote, On 11/01/2008 12:35 p.m.:
George,
Here is the line as modified per your suggestion, cut and pasted from my
default-mil.dlt file:
((85.0 40.0) "Plated" "85.0 x 40.0 +/- 4.0")
With the line as above, when I go Manufacture -> NC -> Drill Legend... I get
this error at the command line:
E- *Error* __ncMKSConvert: argument #1 should be a number (type template = "n")
- (85.0 40.0)
Thanks,
Gary
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Gary E. MacIndoe
PCB Design Engineer
Fort Collins, Colorado
amd.com
gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx
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Your line needs to read "((85.0 40.0) "Plated" "85.0 x 40.0 +/- 4.0")", not
"(85.0 x 40.0) "Plated" "85.0 x 40.0 +/- 4.0")". The two parenthesis at the
start are very important, and the "x" is getting confused for the second
coordinate, which is probably the cause for the error :) This is straight out
of the comments, and how I have it set up to work here.
Skill code (which includes these files, clipboard files, and such) does not pay
attention to carriage returns. You can literally crunch them down into one
line and they will still work (as long as you remove the comments). It is OK
that the two parentheses are on different lines, it doesn't matter. You could
probably even format the above line like
(
(
85.0
40.0
)
"Plated"
"85.0 x 40.0 +/- 4.0"
)
and it would probably still work (never tried this but it is consistent with
other skill structures).
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George Patrick
Tektronix, Inc.
Central Engineering, EDS Applications Support
P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512
Beaverton, OR 97077-0001
* 503-627-5272 (voice) * 503-627-5587 (fax)
http://www.tektronix.com <http://www.tektronix.com/>
http://www.pcb-designer.com <http://www.pcb-designer.com/>
"Off-Grid and Proud of it!"
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: default-x.dlt file snafu
Thanks George, but it's just not working.
When I change to "85.0 40.0", I get the error message:
E- *Error* lowerCase: argument #1 should be either a string or a symbol
(type template = "S") - 40.0
BTW, I have the first "(" up above, and the last ")" below the line for
the slot.
So when my line reads "(85.0 x 40.0) "Plated" "85.0 x 40.0 +/- 4.0")",
error message:
E- *Error* length: argument must be a list or an array - "Plated"
Yes, I have a user field specified in the column definitions:
("User" "TOLERANCE" 10)
My drill chart has Figure, Size, Tolerance, Plated and Qty columns and
works great except for the slot.
It will not plug in the tolerance for the slot, but will for all of the
plated and non-plated holes.
Thanks for your time, when I have time I'll contact support.
Gary
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Gary E. MacIndoe
PCB Design Engineer
Fort Collins, Colorado
amd.com
gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx
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Problem 1: Your hole size is incorrectly specified. You need to have
(85.0 40.0) instead of 85.0 x 40.0.
Problem 2: You need to enter ALL the text, not just the tolerance
The modified line would look line ((85.0 40.0) "Plated" "85.0 X 40.0
+/- 4 MIL") or whatever. This is a SKILL thing, parentheses inside parenthesis.
Make sure you have a user field specified in your column definitions,
we use
(("Figure" "FIGURE" 6)
("Holesize" "BIT DIA" 8)
("User" "FINISHED HOLE" 24 "Left")
("Quantity" "QTY" 6 "Right"))
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George Patrick
Tektronix, Inc.
Central Engineering, EDS Applications Support
P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512
Beaverton, OR 97077-0001
* 503-627-5272 (voice) * 503-627-5587 (fax)
http://www.tektronix.com <http://www.tektronix.com/>
http://www.pcb-designer.com <http://www.pcb-designer.com/>
"Off-Grid and Proud of it!"
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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 12:33
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] default-x.dlt file snafu
Hey guys,
Anyone out there modify their drill chart file
("default-mil.dlt" for mils)?
I have a "CustomData" section where the hole size, Plated or
Non-plated and the tolerance is listed.
With Allegro now defining slots, I can't figure out how to get
a slot tolerance to show up in the drill chart.
Here's the line in the "CustomData" section for the slot that's
not working correctly:
(85.0 x 40.0 "Plated" "+/- 4.0")
The size and the word "Plated" shows up in the drill chart, but
not the tolerance (+/- 4.0).
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Gary
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Gary E. MacIndoe
PCB Design Engineer
Fort Collins, Colorado
amd.com
gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx
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