[PCB_FORUM] Re: default-x.dlt file snafu

  • From: "Macindoe, Gary" <Gary.Macindoe@xxxxxxx>
  • To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:29:19 -0600

Hey Michael,

 

Yeah, that's the conclusion that I came to also, thanks to George and
Dave's help.

 

Thanks for your time and help!

 

Gary

 

  

Gary E. MacIndoe
PCB Design Engineer
Fort Collins, Colorado

amd.com

gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx

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Catrambone
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Importance: High

 

Hey Gary,

 

I was looking into your issue yesterday and I was not able to reproduce
what you were seeing.

After your last post I downgraded to 15.5.1 and now I am getting the
same exact results you are seeing.  (So you are not crazy)

This looks like a 15.5.x bug that was correct on 16.0.

Hope this helps,
Michael Catrambone
UTStarcom, Inc.

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Hey Dave,

 

I bet you're right, I'm on 15.5.7 and it just leaves the tolerance
column blank.

I guess I'll have to wait till we move up to 16.0 about mid year.

 

Thanks for your post!

 

Gary

 

 

Gary E. MacIndoe
PCB Design Engineer
Fort Collins, Colorado

amd.com

gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx

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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Elder
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:52 PM
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: default-x.dlt file snafu

 

Hi Gary,

The following line in a dlt file returns the expected result for me:
((150.0 70.0) "Plated" "+/- 0.2")

Running SPB_16.01. Maybe it's a release problem

Cheers, Dave

Macindoe, Gary wrote, On 11/01/2008 12:35 p.m.: 

George,

 

Here is the line as modified per your suggestion, cut and pasted from my
default-mil.dlt file:

 

((85.0 40.0) "Plated" "85.0 x 40.0 +/- 4.0")

 

 

With the line as above, when I go Manufacture -> NC -> Drill Legend... I
get this error at the command line:

 

E- *Error* __ncMKSConvert: argument #1 should be a number (type template
= "n") - (85.0 40.0)

 

Thanks,

Gary

 

 

Gary E. MacIndoe
PCB Design Engineer
Fort Collins, Colorado

amd.com

gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx

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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 4:15 PM
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Your line needs to read "((85.0 40.0) "Plated" "85.0 x 40.0 +/- 4.0")",
not  "(85.0 x 40.0) "Plated" "85.0 x 40.0 +/- 4.0")".  The two
parenthesis at the start are very important, and the "x" is getting
confused for the second coordinate, which is probably the cause for the
error :)  This is straight out of the comments, and how I have it set up
to work here.

 

Skill code (which includes these files, clipboard files, and such) does
not pay attention to carriage returns.  You can literally crunch them
down into one line and they will still work (as long as you remove the
comments).  It is OK that the two parentheses are on different lines, it
doesn't matter.  You could probably even format the above line like 

 

(

 

  (

    85.0

    40.0

  ) 

  

  

  "Plated" 

  "85.0 x 40.0 +/- 4.0"

)

 

and it would probably still work (never tried this but it is consistent
with other skill structures).

 

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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Macindoe, Gary
        Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 13:46
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        Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: default-x.dlt file snafu

         

        Thanks George, but it's just not working.

         

        When I change to "85.0 40.0", I get the error message:

         

        E- *Error* lowerCase: argument #1 should be either a string or a
symbol (type template = "S") - 40.0

         

         

        BTW, I have the first "(" up above, and the last ")" below the
line for the slot.

         

         

        So when my line reads "(85.0 x 40.0) "Plated" "85.0 x 40.0 +/-
4.0")", error message:

         

        E- *Error* length: argument must be a list or an array -
"Plated"

         

         

        Yes, I have a user field specified in the column definitions:

        ("User"    "TOLERANCE"    10)

         

        My drill chart has Figure, Size, Tolerance, Plated and Qty
columns and works great except for the slot.

        It will not plug in the tolerance for the slot, but will for all
of the plated and non-plated holes.

         

        Thanks for your time, when I have time I'll contact support.

         

        Gary

         

        Gary E. MacIndoe
        PCB Design Engineer
        Fort Collins, Colorado

        amd.com

        gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx

        
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        Problem 1:  Your hole size is incorrectly specified.  You need
to have (85.0 40.0) instead of 85.0 x 40.0.  

        Problem 2: You need to enter ALL the text, not just the
tolerance

         

        The modified line would look line ((85.0 40.0) "Plated" "85.0 X
40.0 +/- 4 MIL") or whatever.  This is a SKILL thing, parentheses inside
parenthesis.

         

        Make sure you have a user field specified in your column
definitions, we use

        (("Figure"      "FIGURE"        6)
         ("Holesize"    "BIT DIA"       8)
         ("User"        "FINISHED HOLE" 24 "Left")
         ("Quantity"    "QTY"           6  "Right"))

         

        -- 
        George Patrick
        Tektronix, Inc.
        Central Engineering, EDS Applications Support
        P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512
        Beaverton, OR 97077-0001
        * 503-627-5272 (voice)     * 503-627-5587 (fax)
        http://www.tektronix.com <http://www.tektronix.com/>     
http://www.pcb-designer.com <http://www.pcb-designer.com/> 
         
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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Macindoe, Gary
                Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 12:33
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                Subject: [PCB_FORUM] default-x.dlt file snafu

                 

                Hey guys,

                 

                Anyone out there modify their drill chart file
("default-mil.dlt" for mils)?

                 

                I have a "CustomData" section where the hole size,
Plated or Non-plated and the tolerance is listed.

                With Allegro now defining slots, I can't figure out how
to get a slot tolerance to show up in the drill chart.

                 

                Here's the line in the "CustomData" section for the slot
that's not working correctly:

                 

                (85.0 x 40.0 "Plated" "+/- 4.0")

                 

                 

                The size and the word "Plated" shows up in the drill
chart, but not the tolerance (+/- 4.0).

                 

                Any ideas?

                 

                Thanks,

                Gary

                 

                Gary E. MacIndoe
                PCB Design Engineer
                Fort Collins, Colorado

                amd.com

                gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx

                 

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