We have been supplying ODB++ exclusively to our fab houses for close to 10 years. We do close to 50 designs a month and I don't recall there ever being a problem that was traced back to a Valor bug - or if there was, it was very, very long ago. However, we read the extracted Allegro database into Valor's Enterprise tool . We don't use the direct ODB++ output from Allegro. Douglas G. Stanley PC Board Designer, Principal Broadcom Corporation<http://www.broadcom.com/> - Irvine, CA dstanley@xxxxxxxxxxxx (949) 926-5889 From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Macindoe, Gary Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:27 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] ODB++ output (*.tgz) to Fab (no gerbers) Hey guys, Has anyone been supplying only the *.tgz file (instead of gerbers, drill, ipc etc.) to the Fab house? If you have, have you run into any issues (besides a Fab house unable or unwilling to use only the *.tgz file)? Thanks for any input. Regards, Gary MacIndoe Senior PCB Layout Designer Contract - Kelly Services Covidien EbD R&D 5920 Longbow Drive Boulder, CO 80301 303.476.7458 www.covidien.com