[PCB_FORUM] Re: DxDesigner to Allegro...

  • From: "austin@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <austin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 20:21:24 -0400

Hi Richard,

I wasn't meaning to complain (I didn't think I was...).  I was only trying
to get an understanding of what the tool can and can't do for $2500.  As I
mentioned, Mentor is very vague with providing any information on the tool,
but helpful if I ask specific questions.

Regards,

Austin

Original Message:
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From: richard moffat richard.moffat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:02:29 +1300
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: DxDesigner to Allegro...


Austin,
 
You're complaining to the wrong people.  People on this forum generally try
to help.  I suggest you start a blog.
 
Regards,
Richard

>>> austin@xxxxxxxxxxxx 27/10/2005 10:44 a.m. >>>

Hi Ron,
 
I believe I started this...  I have no doubt it "works" to some level, but
the thing I'm trying to ferret out is what that level is.  I know it can
give me the netlist, but what beyond the netlist...as I have a simple
netlist translator already that does that without paying $2500 for it. 
Mentor has no datasheets for it, and basically won't tell me anything about
it unless I ask specific questions.  I'm amazed anyone would buy this
"product" without understanding what it is they are getting for their
money.  But, perhaps, that's because the money for these things comes
directly out of my pocket...not some corporations, so I care.
 
The Mentor interface does not support crossprobing or decal preview.  It
does do back-annotation, something I would not be able to do easily (I
don't think) with my simple translation program...but in reality, I don't
use back-annotation anyway.  Something my program doesn't do now is support
attribute passing, but that is probably quite easy to add support for and
is something I'd prefer to add to my program than pay Mentor $2500 just to
get.  I must admit, I'm not impressed at what you get (or don't get for
that matter) for $2500 from this Mentor product.
 
Regards,
 
Austin
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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Scott, Ron
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 5:19 PM
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: DxDesigner to Allegro...


All,
 
I can see there is a ton of traffic on this subject. I have used the
Viewlogic/DXDesigner in conjunction with Allegro for 10 years and I don't
have any problem passing attributes along with the netlist. I have modified
the config files a little bit to eliminate random associations of power/gnd
related stuff but no problems at all.
 

Cheers, 
Ron Scott C.I.D. 
Texas Instruments 
Storage Products Group 
Tel: 214.567.4715  
Cell: 972.816.7978 
Fax: 972.761.5070 
rg-scott@xxxxxx  



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