Agreed.. Using 3rd Party import into Allegro will pass any net level Allegro property as long as setup your Allegro.cfg specifies that they are exported. This works for Component and Pin properties as well. We did this all the time and have been for some time now. This only gets ugly if you have XNETs defined in your design and the netlist applies properties to one net of the XNET which will propagates thru the XNET. Back Annotation to DxDesigner works as well with the key being that the schematic must not be touched at all because any small change to the schematic will cause back annotation to fail. Mike Catrambone UTStarcom, Inc. "richard moffat" <richard.moffat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>@freelists.org on 10/26/2005 03:02:53 PM Please respond to icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent by: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: <icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> cc: Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: DxDesigner to Allegro... No, not right. Allegro can import any type of attribute/property to Allegro from DxDesigner. We do it all the time, including ones we make up. The cfg file needs to be set up correctly to do this. Some users have developed their own cross probing tools, but they are also reluctant to share it freely due to the fact it will give competitive companies a significant productivity increase. You can't give everything out for free - that's life. Cheers, Richard >>> claude.meyers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 27/10/2005 8:25 a.m. >>> This issue is not DxDesigner issue. The issue is Cadence's "third party netlist in" it will only pass certain attributes to Allegro. The spec. Section 7 of the Allegro users Guide hasn't changed as long as I've been using Allegro. The only way around the cross probing that I know is a product from OHIO Design Automation. Claude Meyers Gennext -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Austin Franklin Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 11:30 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: DxDesigner to Allegro... For those of you interested, here are the questions I asked Mentor, and the answers they gave me: Q: Is there a datasheet available for the DxDesigner to Allegro interface? A: No, we do not have a datasheet for this option. Could you please get these questions answered about this interface as well: 1) Does it support crossprobing A: No. 2) Does it support decal preview A: No. 3) Can you use the DxDesigner Attributes Manager for entering/modifying constraints A: Yes. 4) What attributes does it pass to Allegro A: We don't have a list of the constraints/attributes. However, we have many customers using DxDesigner very successfully with Allegro. Keep in mind, they charge $2500 for this, and it appears it does little more than produce a netlist. Something that can be done by converting the PADS output... Regards, Austin ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesyn Research Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesyn Research. (See attached file: C.htm)
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No, not right. Allegro can import any type of attribute/property to Allegro from DxDesigner. We do it all the time, including ones we make up. The cfg file needs to be set up correctly to do this.
Some users have developed their own cross probing tools, but they are also reluctant to share it freely due to the fact it will give competitive companies a significant productivity increase. You can't give everything out for free - that's life.
Cheers,
Richard
>>> claude.meyers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 27/10/2005 8:25 a.m. >>> This issue is not DxDesigner issue. The issue is Cadence's "third party
netlist in" it will only pass certain attributes to Allegro. The spec. Section 7 of the Allegro users Guide hasn't changed as long as I've been using Allegro. The only way around the cross probing that I know is a product from OHIO Design Automation. Claude Meyers Gennext -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Austin Franklin Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 11:30 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: DxDesigner to Allegro... For those of you interested, here are the questions I asked Mentor, and the answers they gave me: Q: Is there a datasheet available for the DxDesigner to Allegro interface? A: No, we do not have a datasheet for this option. Could you please get these questions answered about this interface as well: 1) Does it support crossprobing A: No. 2) Does it support decal preview A: No. 3) Can you use the DxDesigner Attributes Manager for entering/modifying constraints A: Yes. 4) What attributes does it pass to Allegro A: We don't have a list of the constraints/attributes. However, we have many customers using DxDesigner very successfully with Allegro. Keep in mind, they charge $2500 for this, and it appears it does little more than produce a netlist. Something that can be done by converting the PADS output... Regards, Austin ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesyn Research Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesyn Research. |
