[haiku-development] Re: PM Read-only insanity?
- From: Pete Goodeve <pete.goodeve@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 19:11:17 -0700
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:38:38AM -0500, Alexander von Gluck IV wrote:
>
> Eh. It's just a little frustrating as I thought the goal of R1 was to be
> as close to a BeOS compatible replacement as possible. Everytime legitimite
> improvements such as moving to gcc4h images have been mentioned, the "we have
> to stay true to BeOS" statement has been thrown in. Now we are completely
> changing how all of the directories work, and are rapidely departing from
> the original goal.
>
> As an original BeOS user, it all just burns a bit.
>
> Anyway, i'll stop complaining about this stuff as the direction of things
> looks to have already been set in stone.
Well, if you're going to stop, I'd better start... (:-/)
I've kept quiet because I haven't had a chance to install and try a PM
version yet, but all I'm hearing scares the hell out of me!
When you make changes this major, there are *certain* to be
unforseen (and bad) consequences. LIke Alexander, my main
reason for using Haiku is that it maintains the simplicity and
transparency of BeOS.
I essentially ignored package management because it has never been
an area that I felt there was any pressing need. It's always been
delightfully simple to download a package I want and install it. Most
times, I could just unpack even in 'Downloads' and have it run there.
And any "package managers" I've run into up to now [Ubuntu, anyone?]
have been an absolute pain, so I usually end up going for a source
package and compiling myself.
And I assumed that PM would not interfere with the simple way of
installing things. But from what I'm hearing, it's going to interfere
extensively and painfully.
Please rethink this. Please! /boot/common and /boot/home/config
*must* remain writeable -- at least until PM has been debugged
for a year or so.
Another thing that worries me: Is the system hierarchy completely
unwriteable now? I've only kept my installation useable for my own
purposes by plugging in a few modified libraries (libmedia.so, etc).
How am I going to do this if system is strictly-enforced read-only?
I've just spent a few fruitless hours trying to plough through all
the inconveniences of Ubuntu, to try (and fail) to install and use
a certain app, so I'm appreciating Haiku's openness all the more.
Please don't screw it up!
-- Pete --
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