[haiku-development] Re: 64 bit

  • From: anders williamson <awiliamson@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:37:22 -0800

Hi list,

Donn Cave wrote:
>> I look at it this way, while the signal to noise ratio may become
>> unfavorable time to time, it does seem to stimulate developer
>> motivation to flesh out passions and point of view.

I think this is an important point.

>I hope so, and the crew seems like robust, durable people who will
>be able to handle plenty of criticism etc.  Just seems like it might
>be just tiresome to be forever revisiting the same defenses of the
>project's direction, for each new master debater who comes along.

First of all, I'm sorry I'm posting this on the dev list, but I need to get 
this off my chest :)

I'm not a "master debater", but I do share the frustration: as a near-fanatic 
BeOS user back in the days, I'm yearning for its resurrection. I'm sure the 
crew is both robust and durable. They have to be durable, since Haiku seems to 
be an eternity in the works.

Anyway, I first discovered Haiku five or six years ago. It had a sexy home 
page, there was a Google talk and I was confident that I could soon start 
running my good old BeOS software any day now. After all these years, my 
hardware is still not supported (vesa sucks and my usb3 dongles are nowhere to 
be found) and the stability of the thing leaves a lot to be desired.

Is it really surprising that people start asking questions? Unfortunately, the 
answers are just variations of "don't tell us how to do things".

Most of the effort nowadays seems to be in porting posix software and a web 
browser toolkit as well making packages for a premature package manager. If I 
want a posix system I can run any *nix already. Why not stick to getting the 
BeOS core and BeOS API stable and get great hardware support?

Most of what works for me in Haiku works from the shell. And it pretty much 
starts to feel like I'm using some weird linux/beos bastard; it's close enough 
to a posix system that it naturally gravitates towards becoming a unix clone. 
You got A, now I want B. The effort in keeping all these unix software ports 
up-to-date (considering the dependencies) is going to be massive. In other 
words, you will fail, the project is just too small. Stick to recreating BeOS, 
please!

Maybe it's time to take a step back. It's been close to 15 years, and we have a 
weird unix clone in the works.

anders,
aarhus

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