Hi all, I just logged onto the chat room, no problems. Here's a step by step guide. 1. Go to: http://www.senderogroup.com 2. Choose the chat link. 3. From here choose the enter chat room link. 4. You will be presented with a dialog. In Window-Eyes, and sometimes in JFW, you land on the login button. You can't login till you put a name in the edit field that is above. So, you hit shift-tab and sometimes tab and shift tab a couple of times till you hear "edit". 5. Press the enter key to turn on forms mode or turn off MSAA mode. Hint, if you're using FB you don't have to go through these machanations. 6. Put a name in the edit box. 7. Press the tab key!! Do not press enter. I repeat do not press enter! You will land on the login button. 8. Press the spacebar, do not press enter, it's a button, press the spacebar! 9. At this point, one of two things will happen. Either you will be logged into the room, or if you don't have the software installed, a dialog will pop up and tell you that Internet Explorer is worried because you're about to download some software and do you really trust the site you're logged into and blah, blah, blah! Reassure MSIE, download the software, install it and you will be logged into the site. 10. Now occasionally, you'll find somebody whose hardware is out of the ordinary, or who has an odd firewall. In these cases you need to go to http://www.talkingcommunities.com There you will find a help desk, yep, a live help desk. They can troubleshoot your difficulties for you. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp@xxxxxxxxx WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT