[geocentrism] Re: Is geocentrism supported by facts? (Supplementary)

  • From: Steven Jones <steven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:59:33 +0000

Great diagram too j a

Polaris = same spot every night :-)

j a wrote:
Thank you, I was beginning to think the secret science police had intercepted it. That's funny, "waining for over an hour", if you had been "waxing for over an hour" would you have been gaining alertness or getting less bored? or do I have the concepts backwards? ;-) Does anybody know whether or not the small nightly circle of polaris is in roughly the same spot every night or does it follow a larger circle around the sky?

*/Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>/* wrote:

    Ja,
Very nice drawing indeed!...I just now got it...I have been
    waining for over a hour now for this mystery drawing everyone was
    refereing to.....:)
    */j a <ja_777_aj@xxxxxxxxx>/* wrote:

        Paul,
Glad to hear it's not long forgotten. Take your time, your
        choice of discussing the axioms involved in formulating one's
        mindset torwards creation or evolution was great idea.
Everyone, Attached is a drawing illustraiting my understanding of what
        we should see produced in star trails from the nightly and
        annual axis of rotation. Since the baseline (distance from
        observer to axis of rotation) is so small compared the
        distance to the stars, I have basically made it zero length,
        in order to get the drawing somewhat to scale. I added a star
        A to the drawing to help my imagination, it could be any star
        that would be very close to the annual axis of rotation.
        Finally I made what it should look like if you took 24 nightly
        star trail pictures (spaced semi-monthly) and superimposed
        them on a single annual star trail. enough nightly star trails
        superimposed together should form the outline of the annual.
Your comments please. I want to make sure I understand this
        and do not have something basic wrong.
JA...

        */Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx>/* wrote:

            JA
            Yes old man, you are so right!
            You will be pleased to know (I just know you'll be pleased
            to know!) that I have put in some effort -- two or three
            nights at least -- but as you can see we are caught up in
            a maelstrom at the moment and -- to mix a metaphor --  if
            I let go of the tail now I will be left far behind.
            It is proving difficult for me to get it all together (the
            evolution paradigm thing) I just don't seem to be able to
            take reasonably complex philosophical concepts and reduce
            them to a single term for evaluation purposes any more but
            I have not forgotten and will get back to it with any luck
            at all.
            I've extracted this from your post --

                It has been stated that this annual star trail does
                not exist. Has anyone recorded an annual star trail???
                I want to see the picture! If we superimposed 2
                nightly star trail photos from 6 months apart (erase
                all circles except polaris for simplicity) we should
                see the center of the two nightly circles of polaris
                ~23 degrees apart, if they are not, then we have our
                proof positive of the falsity of A-centrism.

            No -- I'm afraid that won't work. You are confusing
            parallax with the effects of differing axes of rotation.
            Don't feel too bad though, there has been confusion enough
            for all to get a share. I'm hoping my last two posts may
            help clear things up.
            Paul D

            
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