-----Original Message----- From: geocentrism-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocentrism-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Allen Daves Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 7:05 PM To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Geosynchronous satellites paper 1. The Aspeden motor is a real observational effect not pseudo science repeatable and demonstrable ( is also found In GWW cant remember the page..i don't have the book in front of me right now.). for the Aspden exp: Ps. 821, 882,1154,1158 inter alia. 2. Although I have known of many of these Phenomena from elsewhere the ones i use most frequently and quote are found in fact found in GWW. That is why is it such a useful book for everyone to have. It goes along way in putting most of the various "anomalies" in one reference book. I encourage everyone to get a copy and do some research.. If there was such a thing as required reading/ reference material I would certainly consider it such. Thanks for the recommendation, Allen. Your check is in the mail :-) 3. If i understood you correctly then i think it importaint to point out that all of the Theory that I put forward uses reference in and to reality using actually observation and experiment ( O&E) found in reality. There is no pseudo science in my deductions regardless of whether or not I am ultimately right or wrong.. There is a difference between arriving a the wrong conclusion based on a limited set of data verse coming to a conclusion based strictly on imagination of "what could be" in spite of what is actually observed ?. I can demonstrate, in fact MS has already demonstrated all the phenomena I use as the bases for my points in argumentation and theory .. I could be wrong but not because I used or relied on any "pseudo science"??Theoretical constructs that can be demonstrated in the ordinary world based on actual O&E is not the same as theoretical constructs external of any demonstrable bases in reality used to develop other theoretical constructs that too are not demonstrable in reality ???????..You may have me confused with those "other guys" (MS Philosophers)