I would think that might be a second or triciary frequency of the oscillation of the gravity vibration around the earth as the universe turns on its center point, so as to account for the tides, but probably not the frequency of the gravity vibration itself but certainly it secondary effect (the squezing action)?.. the gravity vibration I would think is something probably relatively low but on the high end of something like 1047 hz which is supposedly the natural frequency of a medium of plank density (aether)?( cant remember but all objects in space have a natrual frequency as well I need to look that up)..but the difficulties don?t just stop with detection of those large figures propagating at something like 10-44 sec across the entire universe? but also I suspect there could be a ?sea? of complex wave forms in the aether itself, not just one wave form although it could be??the rotation of the aether around the earth also presumable has another physical oscillation in the whole aether itself, to account for the near and latter far distance of the sun to the earth which is the center?..so thus far we have 1. a daily oscillation of the aether for tides and position of sun and moon and such 2. a yearly to account for near and far sun during year 3. I believe some gravitational standing wave form that is it self interacting with all that movement out there .. it would be that wave form that would create the large scale structure we see in the visible universe?? Then litterly right now God only knows what kind of effects a standing wave of that magnitude in a medium of plank density creating that large scale structure would have on a local mass which is so small relatively compared to the rest of the universe that when you think about it , hard to imagine how small of a effect it really is??.. now I would think though that if near planetary gravity is local say out to geo sat orbit then it is reasonable to suggest that the geosat distance is the distance of the interaction of the aether vibrating on the planetary body and then body feeding back into the aether creating a local ?slipstream? ..that is not the right word but I cant think of the word I want ??..creating a localized area akin to surface tension due to that vibration and the feed back???note: the feedback into the aether experimentation strongly suggest but it also suggest that it has a point diminishing effect or a point beyond wich the rest of the aether would not be noticalbe affected?like the gyroscope or planetary spin?.the satilite gets additional velocity from the current that a spinning body produces but it must be within a certain distance from the body?a gyroscope resist change due to a very very small but powerful vortex it creates by spinning but that vortex does not extend very far out ?same thing holds true for a Aspend motor now it might be possible to scale down one to find out if the aetheral vortext is proportional to the one presumably created by the spin of a planetary body?if it is that would be further strong evidence to support the idea that spinning objects create aetheral vortexes and those vortices are indeed the source for satellite slingshots increased velocities and the radius of the gravitational wake or the interaction of the grav wave to a mass and the mass in turn feeding back into the aether ?if you scale a spinning object all down and can produce the same or similar results/ force transfer(velocity increase) to a non attached object you have ureaka? because now you would have the feedback radius; the large scale structure of visible universe; relative sizes and mass of objects in the aether thing of presumably plank density ..you should be able to reverse engineer the gravitational wave and reproduce all the same effects?more or less Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Allen, A little while back you stated that, "The frequency [of the aether] is the quest." As you know, I suggest a frequency (of something) in the paper on geosynchronous satellites. I started playing around with this figure and thought that you might be interested. Paper gives f* = 0.000065 Hz = 5.62 cycles per day The frequency of the tides (T) is 1.93 cycles per day f* would match the tidal frequency if the thrust of the ion-propulsion engine was 5.1 mN, rather than the 15 mN quoted in the documentation. I.e., if the thruster was producing 0.0051 N instead of the (assumed) 0.015 N, then f* = T = 0.000022 Hz Could we have the frequency of the aether from the tides? Neville. -----Original Message----- From: allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:13:08 -0700 (PDT) To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Geosynchronous satellites paper 1. A vibration is the only real phenomena observed in nature that can reproduce the effects and Anomalies that gravity does....so to say gravity is not a vibration requires a much further leap of ?certainty? then to say that it is because it behaves like one.... 2. The frequency is the quest....... I have attempted to devise & explain in detail a method for ascertaining its frequency. However, its frequency cannot be directly measure due to the fact that the vibration is prorogating through the entire universe, all ~15 billion light years, in about 1.5 seconds there is no physical instrumentation that could be constructed to measure that since the best we could even remotely hope for in a physical apparatus is a detector that functions at the speed of light? 3 The affect is called the Aspden motor effect, I believe, but if I am wrong and it is just referred to as the Aspden effect I can live with that too....????