[geocentrism] Re: Every duty had its own own bugle call
- From: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 10:16:03 -0700 (PDT)
Thanks Neville.. yes, i would like to discuss this with you. But fundimentlay i
still dont see how you arive at the definiton of a good and bad tree. That
teaching comes from Christ but he did not preach a different God then the one
in the OT. What you call bad could just as well be God's justice.....that is
how Christ Described it particularly in terms of what men consdiered to be
"fair" v how God Accounts things to men....... Jesus did not renounce the God
of the Jews he Denounced the God of thoese Jews who opposed him and the
scriptures of the jews....?
----- Original Message ----
From: Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2008 12:01:47 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Every duty had its own own bugle call
Allen,
The answer to your question is as follows:
You cannot get good fruit from a bad tree. It is simply impossible. Hence, when
you see compassion, truth, beauty, love, ..., in the world, then it must have
come from a good tree, or source. This source I call God, or our Father.
In the same way, you do not get bad fruit from a good tree, only from a bad
tree. Hence, the hatred, blood-lust, jealousy, ..., seen in the world comes
from, or at least is nurtured by, a bad source. This source I call the Devil.
Although there are a few instances of truth in the OT, I grant you that, there
is an awful lot of bad stuff in there. Hence, the god of the Jews is the Devil.
Hence, they are of their father, the Devil and the works of their father they
do. This agrees with what the man now known as 'Jesus' said.
As for what sayings I accept have genuinely come from Lucifer (the bringer of
light, wrongly associated with the Devil), they become obvious through the
spirit and through reason.
I hope that this covers your (perfectly reasonable) concerns. If you want to
debate the issue, then I think that is a positive and responsible thing to do.
Neville.
-----Original Message-----
From: allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:40:44 -0800 (PST)
Neville,
What if the God of the OT is the real God..and the one you describe is not the
God of Christ? How do you know if what you describe about God is the real &
right one?.....How and what do you use to evaluate who and what the "real God"
is and would/ would not do.......? If you hold to Christ...well..where did
preach a different God then the one found in the OT....?.. If you do not hold
to Christ then how can you know anything about "the true God" .....would not
everything you espouse about God external of a benchmark outside your head just
be an imagination of what you think and want God to be?.......Im not trying to
antagonize you, only to understand your reasoning and then see if I can argue
the/ any point(s)/issues with you meaningfully.
----- Original Message ----
From: Neville Jones <njones@xxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2008 1:22:26 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Every duty had its own own bugle call
All,
One of the strongest geocentric accounts in the Bible, the strongest in Bouw's
opinion, is Joshua's long day. I have a talk on this in Geocentric Universe
versions 2.1, 2.2 and 3.0, as many of you know.
That our Father could stop the Sun and Moon from orbiting the World, I have no
doubt about, if indeed the geocentric model is correct, but the reason given in
Joshua is utterly false. It is blasphemous to suggest that our Father would do
that such that the Jews could slaughter thousands more Amorites et al., in one
of their usual, blood-crazed orgies (c.f. present-day Palestine). I hereby
retract the GU talk and apologise for misleading anyone as to the nature of our
Father.
On a similar note, I was disgusted by the cowardly aerial bombardment of
Palestinian men, women, children and animals by the Ezraeli Air Force recently,
supported by the whores in the American, French, German, Canadian, Australian
and British governments who are happy to accept Jewish money soaked in blood. I
then realized that our Father would never flood the World with water "from
above." This is quite apart from the fact that basic physics shows such a
phenomenal transfer of kinetic energy into heat and erosion to be impossible to
withstand. So whatever catastrophe occurred, had to be man-made. There was no
Noah's Ark. Otherwise our Father would be tarred with the same vile brush that
tars the Ezraelites. The father of the Ezraelites is the Devil, as Christ told
them plainly, and the works of their father they do. The god of the Old
Testament/Torah/Talmud is the Devil.
I am waking up to my bugle call. A little late, perhaps, but better late than
never!!
Regards,
Neville.
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