Steven, What are they saying is the diameter and circumference of this concave Earth? Compared to 8,000 and 24,000 miles. If the sun is half way, then it would be placed at 4,000 miles. Where are we standing? On the underside of a thin crust? Kind Regards, Bernie Steven Jones <steven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Dear Jack, me in blue: Jack Lewis wrote: Dear Steven, I realise all that. How do they explain away geocentrism and all the other 'isms? Jack Because, if it were proven that the Earth was concave and not convex, then life must be from within, that means that the cosmos or the starry heavens are within too as in the following diagram: The universe doesn't exist, only the Earth and the starry globe within, it therefore becomes apparent that sun centred, Earth centred or whatever is irrelevant. This is probably one of the most beautiful aspects relating to the concave Earth hypothesis. (Luke 17:21 KJV) "Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you." Thanks for the questions, it's appreciated to discuss this whilst I think about it all. If you have a question or a possible problem with the kinematics of this model, then fire-away and I'll attempt to answer it! Best wishes, Steven. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Jones" <steven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:13 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Concave model Interesting question dear Jack, with the concave Earth, heliocentrism/acentrism/geocentrism, it's all irrelevant! The Earth is the nucleus of life if you like, you can forget other planets because it is only within the World that we live, shielded like in a womb from whatever lies beyond. If the concave Earth could be proven, it would be the end of it all. No more vast distances even, and a creator would be the most obvious thing ever. In support of the concave Earth: Question, why does a mercury leveled telescope looking out to sea with engraved central cross-hairs feature the ocean above the cross-hairs rather than at the centre or below? Interesting indeed.... Brotherly love, Steven. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com