OK Jason, time for another cache. Steve Bromley <steve.bromley@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >It may be our land, but It still doesn't get past the rule stating that >climbing is not allowed. That is new and was not there when the cache >was >placed. > >Geocaching cannot encourage people to break rules. That will be the >death >sentence for it. If we don't like a rule , we need to work to get it >changed, not encourage people to break it. >On Sep 18, 2012 7:50 AM, "Mike Griffin" <brawnybear@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> First off, it's NOT MDC land. It is our land managed by the MDC. >Second, >> they have a rule that states no climbing. Archiving the cache will >not stop >> people from climbing. When I was there, 90 percent of the people >climbing, >> and a majority were kids, were not cachers. People will climb it >because it >> is there. If the MDC was serious about it, they would rope it off >with >> signs because anyone approaching from the river would not see any >signs. I >> agree it is a CYA. I don't think they are interested in enforcing it. >> >> Mike Griffin >> Delivery Manager >> State Farm Account >> 314-308-0916 Cell >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Sep 18, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Edward Turner <n0wnv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >wrote: >> >> yeah it is a regulation on MDC land, the regulation is there to >protect >> you and MDC from a potential lawsuit from the family because of your >> stupidity. >> On 9/17/2012 11:22 PM, Wayne Lindberg wrote: >> >> This is my note on the cache page.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> I will cast a dissenting vote on this one. Leave it alone! Okay, it's >not >> in compliance with MDC regulations (read that as the lawyer rule). >Note- a >> regulation is not a law, it's usually a CYA. I used to work for the >> Gummint, I know this. This cache has been there since at least 2003. >> Surely, the boys and girls at MDC have noticed, oh ropes and such, >during >> this time. Look at the cast of characters that have made the climb. >It >> includes most of the SLAGA elite. It's a tall rock, it's meant to be >> climbed by us (well, maybe not me, but I would if I could), for cat's >sake, >> kids make the climb. It's an oldie, but goodie. Cachers, go for it. >The >> Department of Conservation works for you.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> I am a maverick and don’t agree with most laws, regulations, rules, >and >> other such nonsense. As citizens and sovereigns, we can and should >do most >> anything we want to do. As long as you’re not hurting someone else, >do >> it. Of course, if you fall and break your neck, it’s your dime. >Don’t >> expect me and everyone else to pay your way.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Wayne**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ >> mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ><geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] >> *On Behalf Of *Michael Rogers >> *Sent:* Monday, September 17, 2012 9:56 PM >> *To:* SLAGA LIST >> *Subject:* [GeoStL] Needs archived?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Two separate needs archived logs and nothing has been done?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> http://coord.info/GCCE0F**** >> >> ** ** >> >> You can't go after this cache legally, but it's still listed? I don't >> understand. Is there something behind the scenes for which I am >unaware?** >> ** >> >> ** ** >> >> -Michael**** >> >> >> -- Sent from my HTC Android phone. Please excuse my typos.