[GeoStL] Re: Needs archived?

  • From: "R. Sheffold" <rsheffold@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:26:06 -0500

OK Jason, time for another cache.

Steve Bromley <steve.bromley@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>It may be our land, but It still doesn't get past the rule stating that
>climbing is not allowed. That is new and was not there when the cache
>was
>placed.
>
>Geocaching cannot  encourage people to break rules. That will be the
>death
>sentence for it.  If we don't like a rule , we need to work to get it
>changed, not encourage people to break it.
>On Sep 18, 2012 7:50 AM, "Mike Griffin" <brawnybear@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> First off, it's NOT MDC land. It is our land managed by the MDC.
>Second,
>> they have a rule that states no climbing. Archiving the cache will
>not stop
>> people from climbing. When I was there, 90 percent of the people
>climbing,
>> and a majority were kids, were not cachers. People will climb it
>because it
>> is there. If the MDC was serious about it, they would rope it off
>with
>> signs because anyone approaching from the river would not see any
>signs. I
>> agree it is a CYA. I don't think they are interested in enforcing it.
>>
>> Mike Griffin
>> Delivery Manager
>> State Farm Account
>> 314-308-0916 Cell
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 18, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Edward Turner <n0wnv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>wrote:
>>
>> yeah it is a regulation on MDC land, the regulation is there to
>protect
>> you and MDC from a potential lawsuit from the family because of your
>> stupidity.
>> On 9/17/2012 11:22 PM, Wayne Lindberg wrote:
>>
>>  This is my note on the cache page.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I will cast a dissenting vote on this one. Leave it alone! Okay, it's
>not
>> in compliance with MDC regulations (read that as the lawyer rule).
>Note- a
>> regulation is not a law, it's usually a CYA. I used to work for the
>> Gummint, I know this. This cache has been there since at least 2003.
>> Surely, the boys and girls at MDC have noticed, oh ropes and such,
>during
>> this time. Look at the cast of characters that have made the climb.
>It
>> includes most of the SLAGA elite. It's a tall rock, it's meant to be
>> climbed by us (well, maybe not me, but I would if I could), for cat's
>sake,
>> kids make the climb. It's an oldie, but goodie. Cachers, go for it.
>The
>> Department of Conservation works for you.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I am a maverick and don’t agree with most laws, regulations, rules,
>and
>> other such nonsense.  As citizens and sovereigns, we can and should
>do most
>> anything we want to do.  As long as you’re not hurting someone else,
>do
>> it.  Of course, if you fall and break your neck, it’s your dime. 
>Don’t
>> expect me and everyone else to pay your way.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Wayne****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>> mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
><geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Michael Rogers
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 17, 2012 9:56 PM
>> *To:* SLAGA LIST
>> *Subject:* [GeoStL] Needs archived?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Two separate needs archived logs and nothing has been done?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> http://coord.info/GCCE0F****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> You can't go after this cache legally, but it's still listed? I don't
>> understand. Is there something behind the scenes for which I am
>unaware?**
>> **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> -Michael****
>>
>>
>>

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