Re: [foxboro] Device Integrator 30 manual
- From: Pablo Lioi <plioi@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:22:35 +0000
It seems to me that restricting access or charging for documentation is not a
sensible policy.
> From: doucet427@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [foxboro] Device Integrator 30 manual
> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:18:08 -0500
>
> Joe,
>
> In addition to Scott's comments, I might add that of all the major DCS
> manufacturers, only Siemens makes their documentation freely available on
> their web site. Expertise has a cost.
>
> Terry
>
> > From: Scott.Landry@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 00:01:23 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [foxboro] Device Integrator 30 manual
> Joe,
> It's fairly simple and this is one mans thoughts,
> The best way for Invensys to maintain an up to date set of documentation is
> to keep it in the hands of the users through initial
> purchase and supplemented by a repository such as support.ips.com. 35+ years
> of product documentation is not easily kept up
> with at most customer sites.
>
> All this attention to detail is not without cost.
> Reagrds,
>
> Scott
>
> ________________________________________
> > From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > Of Joseph M. Riccardi [Joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 10:36 PM
> > To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [foxboro] Device Integrator 30 manual
> >
> > I will never understand nor agree why this info, or any available
> > system-specific documentation, is not available to all IA System users; with
> > or without a customer service agreement. It's a damn shame...
> >
> > Joseph M. Riccardi, Inc.
> > DCS Services - Industrial Process Control
> >
> > Joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > "To give real service you must add something that cannot be bought or
> > measured with money; and that is sincerity and integrity." - Donald A. Adams
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Landry, Scott
> > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 11:23 PM
> > To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [foxboro] Device Integrator 30 manual
> >
> > Pablo,
> >
> > support.ips.invensys.com website support >> foxboro >> Troubleshooting
> > Guides
> >
> > entry into site requires a customer service agreement.
> >
> > If you Contact one of the many customer centers around the world this
> > information can be provided.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > Scott Landry
> >
> > Invensys Operation Management
> > Gulf Coast USA
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > Of Pablo Lioi [plioi@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 3:49 PM
> > To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [foxboro] Device Integrator 30 manual
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > The situation is this: I have a working installation, which had some
> > problems.
> >
> > I understood enough to fix the problems, but now I want to fully understand
> > the meaning of every parameter of the ECB20, FDSCAN, FDIDMS, FDMSBL, etc.
> >
> > In many cases, the manual is not very helpful, so I thought maybe there is
> > some other document, "How to", "HH", "Tips & Tricks" or something of the
> > sort.
> >
> > I just can't beleive that anybody can configure the DI30 from scratch using
> > the information from the manual and nothing else, unless he goes through a
> > long trial and error process.
> >
> >
> >
> > Pablo
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: Joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [foxboro] Device Integrator 30 manual
> > > Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:54:52 -0500
> > >
> > > Pablo,
> > >
> > > Not sure what type of documentation you are looking for but what about the
> > > ICC Print, to a single file, of all Compounds/Blocks/Parameters; one per
> > > FD30B Station? What else do you need?
> > >
> > >
> > > Joseph M. Riccardi
> > > DCS Services - Industrial Process Control
> > >
> > > Joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > "To give real service you must add something that cannot be bought or
> > > measured with money; and that is sincerity and integrity." - Donald A.
> > Adams
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of Pablo Lioi
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 1:56 PM
> > > To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [foxboro] Device Integrator 30 manual
> > >
> > > Hi everybody,
> > >
> > > I am trying to document the configuration of several FD30B processors used
> > > for offshore telemetry.
> > >
> > > For that, I am carefully reading the manual (B0193RH_C), but find most of
> > it
> > > really impossible to understand.
> > >
> > > This must be, by far, the worst Foxboro manual I ever came across.
> > >
> > > So my question is: Is there anything better out there?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Pablo Lioi
> > >
> > > TOTAL AUSTRAL S.A.
> > >
> > > Argentina
> > >
> > >
> > >
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