Re: [foxboro] Device Integrator 30 manual

  • From: "Goss, Andy" <Andy.Goss@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 03:34:41 -0500

Pablo 

The v344 image is a modbus Master/Slave image, configurable for each. All of 
the DI images are custom per say.

The documentation for a lot of these images is available on the GCS website 

 http://support.ips.invensys.com/content/lifeline/2000/Info/gwindx.htm

These do document the specific implementation of each image . The DI 
documentation is very generic.


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-----Original Message-----
From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Pablo Lioi
Sent: 07 March 2010 14:28
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [foxboro] Device Integrator 30 manual

Scott,

We have DI30B's on both sides of the communication, using the Modbus RTU 
Protocol.

The "onshore" DI30 acts as master and the "offshore" acts as "slave", but they 
are not using custom images, as far as I know.

According to the ds_stasict command, we have v651v344.186  OS1FDB.GDT.

The ECB20's of both ports are configured for RTU protocol.

On the "master" side, pollings are implemented using FDSCAN and response 
messages are handled by FDIDMS and FDIIN blocks.

On the "slave" side, querys are handled by FDIDMS, FDMSBL and FDIOUT blocks.

 

The system was delivered with no documentation and the people who programmed it 
are no longer available.

Originally, the system was working partially, with PERF error counters for the 
ports in Sysmon increasing all the time, due to configuration errors.

Using the manual, I was able to correct the errors, but now I would like to 
have a deeper understanding of the system.

 

Just to give you an example, I don't understand how a FDIDMS block on the 
"master" side identifies a response message for FC 03.The response for FC 03 
does not include the starting register number, so all responses from a given 
slave, with the same number of registers, look identical to the FDIDMS blocks. 
Yet, the FDIDMS blocks do include the starting register number, and in some way 
the data gets routed to the right place. Well, I didn't find any explanation 
for that in the manual.

 

Regards,

Pablo

 
 
> From: Scott.Landry@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 23:39:36 -0500
> Subject: Re: [foxboro] Device Integrator 30 manual
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Pablo,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Perhaps you can explain a bit more about what your FDG/DI is connected to and 
> some history of what documentation was delivered with system when it was 
> purchased ?
> 
> DIs are what I like to refer to as "standard customs".
> 
> Ranging from "specific manufacture custom" to "let's see if we can get it to 
> work without a custom" .
> 
> DIs do not fit in "specific custom" or "standard protocol integrator" such as 
> ABDH+ or MB+ or DNP3.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
> Of Pablo Lioi [plioi@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 3:49 PM
> To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [foxboro] Device Integrator 30 manual
> 
> Joe,
> 
> The situation is this: I have a working installation, which had some problems.
> 
> I understood enough to fix the problems, but now I want to fully understand 
> the meaning of every parameter of the ECB20, FDSCAN, FDIDMS, FDMSBL, etc.
> 
> In many cases, the manual is not very helpful, so I thought maybe there is 
> some other document, "How to", "HH", "Tips & Tricks" or something of the sort.
> 
> I just can't beleive that anybody can configure the DI30 from scratch using 
> the information from the manual and nothing else, unless he goes through a 
> long trial and error process.
> 
> 
> 
> Pablo
> 
> 
> 
> > From: Joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [foxboro] Device Integrator 30 manual
> > Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:54:52 -0500
> >
> > Pablo,
> >
> > Not sure what type of documentation you are looking for but what about the
> > ICC Print, to a single file, of all Compounds/Blocks/Parameters; one per
> > FD30B Station? What else do you need?
> >
> >
> > Joseph M. Riccardi
> > DCS Services - Industrial Process Control
> >
> > Joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > "To give real service you must add something that cannot be bought or
> > measured with money; and that is sincerity and integrity." - Donald A. Adams
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Pablo Lioi
> > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 1:56 PM
> > To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [foxboro] Device Integrator 30 manual
> >
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > I am trying to document the configuration of several FD30B processors used
> > for offshore telemetry.
> >
> > For that, I am carefully reading the manual (B0193RH_C), but find most of it
> > really impossible to understand.
> >
> > This must be, by far, the worst Foxboro manual I ever came across.
> >
> > So my question is: Is there anything better out there?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Pablo Lioi
> >
> > TOTAL AUSTRAL S.A.
> >
> > Argentina
> >
> >
> >
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