[duxuser] Re: Learning to use Dbt win

  • From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 00:30:35 +0100

Hi Terri,

We use a different size paper in the UK.

All I can suggest for now (at 20 past midnight) is
that you experiment with a sighted person.

George.

-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Terri Pannett
Sent: 16 July 2004 17:50
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Learning to use Dbt win

Dear George,

What would you suggest the line width and page
length should be?  I'm using
8.5 by 11 paper.

Terri Pannett, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA.
Army MARS call sign AAT9PX, California
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 6:53 AM
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Learning to use Dbt win


Hi Terri,

Although it's a fiddle initially to set up, you
can in fact get 24 point print out of DBT.  You
need to turn off the automatic determining of
Point Size in the Global Fonts dialog, and then
reduce characters per line and line per page, but
it is basically doable.

That said, I should also stress that DBT is not
designed as large print software, nor at this
stage do I believe it is planned.

George.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Terri Pannett
> Sent: 14 July 2004 20:56
> To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxuser] Re: Learning to use Dbt win
>
> I've used DBT since the DOS days and most of the
commands are
> the same in DBT Win.
>
> When I first bought this computer, DBT was my
main word
> processor as well as braille translator.  I have
a copy of
> Word now, but I don't like Word.  It's a
necessary evil
> because I need to make some large print
documents for my
> father and because DBT doesn't like RTF
documents.  If DBT
> could enlarge print to 24 type and if it could
handle rtf,
> then I could kiss Word goodbye and use DBT.  DBT
is _so much
> more user-friendly than Word.
>
> Terri Pannett, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA.
Army MARS call
> sign AAT9PX, California
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Deborah Barnes"
<dbarnes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 5:34 AM
> Subject: [duxuser] Re: Learning to use Dbt win
>
>
> : So have I, and I've been using braille all my
life and had
> to learn what I
> : know about computers through blood, tears and
so on.  I
> would rather be able
> : to kind of study and learn things easily but
usually I'm
> learning on the
> : fly--when I need to know something, then I
learn it.  But
> with this list,
> : Duxbury supprot, the Help system (which has
improved
> tremendously), Code
> : Reference guide, etc. I've thoroughly enjoyed
Duxbury and
> find it a joy to
> : work with.
> :
> : Deb B.
> :
> : -----Original Message-----
> : From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> : [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Terri Pannett
> : Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 4:59 PM
> : To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> : Subject: [duxuser] Re: Learning to use Dbt win
> :
> :
> : I don't know whether this would work, but have
you tried
> importing the .txt
> : file as a Duxbury Coded text file?
> :
> : I have used DBT for many years and I have used
braille
> since I was a child.
> : For my own personal needs, I have found DBT to
be easy to use.
> :
> : Terri Pannett, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA.
Army MARS
> call sign AAT9PX,
> : California
> : ----- Original Message -----
> : From: "Donald L. Roberts"
<donald_roberts_99@xxxxxxxxx>
> : To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> : Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 6:04 PM
> : Subject: [duxuser] Learning to use Dbt win
> :
> :
> : : Hello,
> : :
> : : Although I bought this program well over a
year ago, for
> me at least,
> : : learning to use it has been a totally
frustrating
> experience.  While I do
> : : not wish to be too quick to blame the
program's
> documentation, it doesn't
> : : seem to me that the docs begin at the
beginning and then
> have a logical
> : : progression including meaningful examples.
However, to be
> honest, I
> : haven't
> : : read that much of the documentation,
possibly because I
> learned braille as
> : a
> : : child and have used both Nfbtrans and Turbo
Braille
> without difficulty for
> : : many years.
> : :
> : : I won't waste your time generalizing because
I wanted to
> bring up a
> : specific
> : : situation for which I just cannot figure the
solution.  I have an
> : : alphabetized list of phone numbers which is
perhaps 18 K
> in size which was
> : : written as a dos ascii text file, one name
and number per
> line.  When I
> : : imported this file into Dbt Win version
10.4, all of the
> crlf pairs had
> : been
> : : removed.  This was true regardless of
whether I said that
> the file was
> : : formatted ms dos or formatted windows.  When
I turned on
> reveal codes or
> : : whatever you call it with alt f3, no line
breaks were shown.
> : :
> : : So what am I missing?  So how soon will Dbt
for dummies
> be available?  I
> : : understand how to set up the embosser and
printer, etc.,
> it is just this
> : : business of styles which I find somewhat
daunting.
> Stated another way,
> : the
> : : process of translation and embossing works
fine for me.
> Conversely,
> : proper
> : : formatting is for me a real challenge.
> : :
> : : Thanks for listening.
> : :
> : : Don Roberts
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