[cryptome] Re: The NSA the only part of government that listens
- From: "" <shelley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 21:48:55 -0800
They're stirring up FUD as usual, and presenting a false dichotomy of "choice":
either the NSA retains our info, or the telcos (et al) keep it (and
disseminate it to divorce lawyers and LE- don't forget haX0rs could get at it
too!!1!)
How about a 3rd choice: these companies just get rid of it at the end of the
next billing cycle? Let the NSA or LE get a valid warrant for the exact
record of their person of interest- y'know, as the 4th amendment dictates-
during that time.
It's a subject that been discussed at great length here (and/or on cpunks or
libtech, the lines blur.) There is no reason anyone needs to keep these
bulk records for years (several decades, in AT&T's case) when it has been
shown time and again to be ineffective in "catching ter'rists."
But that's not the real reason they want this Stasi-like compendium of our
lives, so don't expect it to stop (despite whatever weak legislation is passed
to assuage we, the rabble.) TIA caused a stir & was just moved under
the radar & put on steroids. This will be no different, especially
with "oversight" from incompetent apologists like Feinstein.
On Nov 4, 2013 9:22 PM, John Hudson <hudson28@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Anybody catch the interesting logic of today's NSA hearing on civil liberties
and privacy?
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/11/04/top_obama_lawyers_reforming_the_nsa_could_hurt_americans_privacy_rights
On Nov 4, 2013, at 11:20 PM, "" <shelley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Is the
funny/ironic bit you sending an html email with an inline image, from "email
powered by Google" (given the nature of the article and the target audience of
this list?)
On Nov 4, 2013 7:35 PM, Jeremy Compton <j.compton@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I was sent this and l thought it was hilarious. I think we all need a bit a of
a laugh from time to time. Its good for the soul.
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