[cryptome] Re: The NSA the only part of government that listens

  • From: John Hudson <hudson28@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 00:21:41 -0500

Anybody catch the interesting logic of today's NSA hearing on civil liberties 
and privacy? 

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/11/04/top_obama_lawyers_reforming_the_nsa_could_hurt_americans_privacy_rights

On Nov 4, 2013, at 11:20 PM, "" <shelley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Is the funny/ironic bit you sending an html email with an inline image, from 
> "email powered by Google" (given the nature of the article and the target 
> audience of this list?)
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> On Nov 4, 2013 7:35 PM, Jeremy Compton <j.compton@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
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> I was sent this and l thought it was hilarious. I think we all need a bit a 
> of a laugh from time to time. Its good for the soul.
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> NSA Makes all Email Use Privilege Waiving?
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> Posted: 04 Nov 2013 03:00 AM PST
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> Puzzle me this: If a lawyer conversed with a client in front of a law 
> enforcement representative, would the conversation be privileged?
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> Answer: No.
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> Conversations held in the presence of any third party, let alone one 
> representing the government, would constitute a waiver of privilege.
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> Previously on 3Geeks (and perhaps too many times) we have tackled the subject 
> of the use of free email services and how that waives privilege. But now the 
> NSA has upped the ante on the topic, basically spreading it to all email.
> 
> Unless you live under a rock with no wifi, you will be aware that the NSA is 
> tracking global email communications and storing them in Utah (a nice place 
> to visit). So, as a lawyer should you now expect that a government agency is 
> obtaining copies of all of your confidential client communications? If so, 
> you might want to ....
> 
> Oh never mind. If we actually took this rule seriously, all lawyers would be 
> encrypting their email communications. And we know they are not and no one is 
> asking them to do so.
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> I withdraw the statement.
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