[cryptome] British Ambassador to Germany hauled in over allegations tapping in german communications in British media

  • From: Jeremy Compton <j.compton@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 13:22:22 +1300

British Ambassador asked to come to the Foreign Office


    A spokesperson for the German Federal Foreign Office issued the following 
statement today (5 November):

At the instigation of Foreign Minister Westerwelle, the 
British Ambassador was asked to come for a meeting at the Federal 
Foreign Office.

 The Director-General for European Affairs asked for an explanation of 
current reports in British media and indicated that tapping 
communications from a diplomatic mission would constitute a violation of
 international law.

Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 21:48:55 -0800
From: shelley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cryptome] Re: The NSA the only part of government that listens 

They're stirring up FUD as usual, and presenting a false dichotomy of "choice": 
 either the NSA retains our info, or the telcos (et al) keep it (and 
disseminate it to divorce lawyers and LE- don't forget haX0rs could get at it 

How about a 3rd choice: these companies just get rid of it at the end of the 
next billing cycle?  Let the NSA or LE get a valid warrant for the exact record 
of their person of interest- y'know, as the 4th amendment dictates- during that 

It's a subject that been discussed at great length here (and/or on cpunks or 
libtech, the lines blur.)  There is no reason anyone needs to keep these bulk 
records for years (several decades, in AT&T's case) when it has been shown time 
and again to be ineffective in "catching ter'rists."

But that's not the real reason they want this Stasi-like compendium of our 
lives, so don't expect it to stop (despite whatever weak legislation is passed 
to assuage we, the rabble.)  TIA caused a stir & was just moved under the radar 
& put on steroids.  This will be no different, especially with "oversight" from 
incompetent apologists like Feinstein.

 On Nov 4, 2013 9:22 PM, John Hudson <hudson28@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

Anybody catch the interesting logic of today's NSA hearing on civil liberties 
and privacy? 
On Nov 4, 2013, at 11:20 PM, "" <shelley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Is the 
funny/ironic bit you sending an html email with an inline image, from "email 
powered by Google" (given the nature of the article and the target audience of 
this list?)

 On Nov 4, 2013 7:35 PM, Jeremy Compton <j.compton@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

I was sent this and l thought it was hilarious. I think we all need a bit a of 
a laugh from time to time. Its good for the soul.

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