Re: hi

  • From: Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 15:00:17 +0200

Apoc?

Yeah, i think it's fair that blizzard nerfed the whole perma-mindless spam
build. It makes the game a bit boring. I like how the new patch introduced
so many new different types of builds. At one point everyone is basically
the same lolz but now you can have fun a bit.

To bad they fixed the WD more than 10 zombie dog bug. (The bug is that,
zombie dogs that didn't spawn from the "Zombie Dog" skill itself doesn't
count towards max zombie dogs allowed. So passive and other skills that
gives zombie dogs when a monster dies stays...) saw a vid with 10 zombie
dogs. looks fun :) I think they removed this bug because it cause
performance issue...i mean just the 0 CD with 3 zombie dog build is already
stifling performance of the game.


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Damage and build variety is waaaaay better from the looks of it.
>
> Perma builds got nerfed ofcourse like everybody.  Perma freeze or Perma
> Archon etc. and Apoc in general
>
> ------------------------------
> From: numotd@xxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 14:43:47 +0200
>
> Subject: Re: hi
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Poor WD lolz
>
> didn't they nerf Wiz too?
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/2823159/
>
>
>
> Problem is that with the new patch there are far too many people posting
> 'builds' that are just their random choice of skills.
>
>
>
> Dunno exactly how thing are going but Monk/Wiz > DH/Barb. Don't care how
> the WD is doing.
>
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong
> *Sent:* 04 March 2014 2:31 PM
>
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: hi
>
>
>
> How's monk in 2.0.1? i'm still not feeling the class...maybe i just don't
> like their playstyle :/ What new builds do they have other than dashing
> strike, bells, cyclone?
>
>
>
> DH looks very good in 2.0.1 now. Will main DH now :)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:28 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>  Il play monk to get paragon and keys. I want to play somethng difrent
> nw. Helfire rings r op in 2.0.
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: hi
>
> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 12:24:37 +0000
>
>
>  Also LB, don't be playing the Barb expecting to be OP or anything. A lot
> of the casual Barb players are migrating to Monk because he's so much
> stronger now than the Barb.
>
>  *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *lindsey kiviets
> *Sent:* 04 March 2014 2:22 PM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* RE: hi
>
>  Sap is playing wizard. I had to resort to using follower coz i kept dying
>  ------------------------------
>  From: paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: hi
> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 12:20:09 +0000
>  Wizard!
>
>
> Frozen orb is boss
>  ------------------------------
>  From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: hi
> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 12:14:37 +0000
>  Don't worry too much about them because you can always reset them.
>
> Go with res-all before +% life.
> Your movement speed (total, including equip) should be +25%. I get 12%
> from Inna Pants, 12% from Lacuni and 1% from paragon levels.
> Go with attack speed.
>
> Depending on your build, some other things change - like whether you want
> splash damage.
>
> The Barb has been nerfed massively, especially in comparison to the Monk.
> Don't expect your Barb to be unkillable anymore. Also don't expect any
> perma-builds.
>
>  *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> *On Behalf Of *lindsey kiviets
> *Sent:* 04 March 2014 2:06 PM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* RE: hi
>
>  Aah okay i see thanks.  I duno where to put my paragon levels, everythng
> luks gud.
>  ------------------------------
>  From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: hi
> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 12:00:29 +0000
>  Oh wait, are you talking about a WW Barb? I thought you meant the twirly
> Monk thing.
>
> Viable WW builds now? Uh, not really there. Well, you can get them, but
> you need to be properly equipped.
>
> Previously you used Battle Rage > Into the Fray so that crit hits
> generated fury. Then WoTB > Thrive on Chaos allowed you to add time to WoTB
> for fury generated.
> As long as you had crit chance of around 40% unbuffed, your passives and
> skills could push this past 80%. That meant you'd never run out of fury as
> long as you hit enough people fast enough.
>
> HoTA - crit chance higher if you've got full fury - meant that my crit
> chance was around 95% for HoTA.
>
> For WW barb, you added the WW rune that lets you attack at your movement
> speed. Then you add Sprint with the Tornados. They proc'd enough to
> generate your non-stop fury. WW dealt the damage to kill. Throw in Rend to
> make you Immortal and you're good to go.
>
> A proper working WW barb would set you back only around 50m.
>
>
> TL:DR  - these builds no longer work - you can't generate fury from crit
> hits. L2P
>
> Superstition is a great passive now for fury generation. Against elemental
> elites, you will never run out of fury. You can perma-HoTA them. As long as
> your fury spent to life is high enough, you can live doing this.
>
> http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#ahdRSk!hYe!ZcYcZb
>
> That's the sort of thing you should go for if you want a WW build these
> days.
>
> Also, the Barbarian is not a ballerina. Stop using WW.
>
> Also, your BB is level 26 or some crap. Come back when you're max level
> and we'll talk again. There are no builds for low level Barbs. Get level
> reduced gear and shove gems in there.
>
>  *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> *On Behalf Of *lindsey kiviets
> *Sent:* 04 March 2014 1:44 PM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* RE: hi
>
>  Ya fkn paye registration. U need to give me info on keeping up that spin
> dammit.
>  ------------------------------
>  From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: hi
> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 11:40:07 +0000
>  You physically go to SARS? You do know that you can do your tax online,
> right? Also your company should send the IRP5s straight to SARS to
> pre-populate the tax fields. Takes me about 5 minutes to do my tax every
> year.
>
>  *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> *On Behalf Of *lindsey kiviets
> *Sent:* 04 March 2014 1:38 PM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* RE: hi
>
>  Why is sars so kuk full wtf? Im running outa mana quick when i spin. How
> did ppl keep up the spin for so long in vanilla d3?
>  ------------------------------
>  Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 12:12:59 +0200
> Subject: Re: hi
> From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  > What would you say if Infiltration didn't change his tactic? That he
> is just stupid? Or what if Sanford had changed his tactic and Infiltration
> didn't?
>  You're overcomplicating it and looking at it in the wrong way.
> Remember, Infiltration was just reacting to Sanford Kelly.  He was just
> remembered the situation from before and progressively punished harder
> after getting hit by it once.  There wasn't a big tactical aspect behind
> it.  He just adapted to what Sanford was doing.  There's no luck involved
> either.  Given the number of options players have at that range, it's
> extremely hard to perform a counter on reaction.  You have to place that
> counter higher in your memory bank.  Remember how we played once and you
> hit me with a focus attack, and then afterwards I kept punishing it with an
> Ultra?  Same thing.  The difference is that the way Infiltration handled it
> there was no easy way for him to get baited into punishing incorrectly.
> cr.mk xx tatsu would work even if Sanford Kelly backdashed, so would cr.hkxx 
> demon.
>
>  On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Grei Botes <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  I suppose "I don't know".
>  Pah, I know it sounds silly but if I changed what I did every time I got
> hit by something, I'm not respecting the fact the guy probably has
> something else up his sleeve to "counter my counter".
>  I just use a "penalty shootout" mentality to deal with mixups. If I
> always go left as goalie, whether you know it or not, eventually you will
> shoot left, at least once, even if you KNOW shooting right seems to be the
> best option. Its called probability matching, and its generally inherent in
> any living organism.
>  Anyway, after the blocked shot, the general option by the shooter will
> be to switch back to the winning option... but that is when the goalie
> changes too! This usually shatters the morale of the shooter... or at least
> gives me a nice comfortable spot "inside his head", although I didn't do a
> single thing.
>
> Its the same reason that I prefer to "air to air" a guy then use an
> anti-air, because that means I 'knew' you were going to jump and that is
> scary. DP could just be from reaction.
>
> TL:DR, I try and get you used to be me being silly and then turn smart. It
> catches you unawares and you lose the match :-)
>  Doesn't work on guys who stick to their guns though.
>  So totally is luck, rather than adaption. What would you say if
> Infiltration didn't change his tactic? That he is just stupid? Or what if
> Sanford had changed his tactic and Infiltration didn't?
>  Anyway, there are probably arguments for and against what I'm saying,
> doesn't really matter.
>
>
>
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