Re: USF4 changes!
- From: Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 04:05:18 +0200
After seeing gameplay footage. I'm liking the direction the game is
heading. It seems to still keep the main mechanic of mk9 with some new
welcoming upgrades (the variation system is cool idea)
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> some interesting info here:
>
>
> http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2014/jun/10/cassie-cage-and-kotal-kahn-revealed-mortal-kombat-x-former-character-daughter-johnny-cage-and-sonya/
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 3:42 AM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Looks like not everyone from mk9 will come back...only 24 slot.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 3:40 AM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Answer to johnny cage and sonya dying in mk9?
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.eventhubs.com/images/2014/jun/10/cassie-cage-and-kotal-kahn-revealed-mortal-kombat-x-different-versions-each-character-shown-1/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I love it :D
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> > Nintendo is the clear winner of E3 so far:
>>>> >
>>>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KLQz-7gCnI
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:56 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> i would get ps4 for this game:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEJ6QgMGMdA
>>>> >>
>>>> >> lolz
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Her best overheads are is F+mk fast 50 dmg and EX mallet smash(+4),
>>>> >>> while F+mp is also decent for being +3 on hit but very slow though.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Ashraf Barendse
>>>> >>> <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >>> > soz, I meant rhino horn (qcf+mk)
>>>> >>> > yep, you'll only be able to punish big moves like dp's with st HP
>>>> into
>>>> >>> > rhino
>>>> >>> > horn into ultra.
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > Agree, definitely need to play her very poking based, since her
>>>> >>> > pressure
>>>> >>> > with regards to frames is not there.
>>>> >>> > You can start mixing up with overheads once the guy is too scared
>>>> to
>>>> >>> > press
>>>> >>> > buttons or reversal.
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>> > wrote:
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >> What's qcf+mp?
>>>> >>> >> I know rhino horn(hcf+mk) is a meterless juggle to ultra but your
>>>> >>> >> opponent has to be standing or else you get punished because
>>>> rhino
>>>> >>> >> horn whiffs duckers.
>>>> >>> >> Standing HP sucks compared to crouching HP because it's way too
>>>> >>> >> slow(13 frames) and it whiffs duckers and whiffs after focus
>>>> attack
>>>> >>> >> crumpled opponents and some dizzy ones too, while crouching HP is
>>>> >>> >> faster (9 frames) and forces stand so that rhino horn connect.
>>>> >>> >> Now she needs meter to do any kind of damage.
>>>> >>> >> She has no pressure of any kind so this makes her a read type of
>>>> >>> >> character with strict footsie tools because she cannot mount any
>>>> >>> >> pressure.
>>>> >>> >> So players with good reactions for punishment and abare skills
>>>> since
>>>> >>> >> she cannot apply any kind of pressure will destroy her.
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Ashraf Barendse
>>>> >>> >> <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >>> >> > yep, the original arcade version had different balancing, and
>>>> no
>>>> >>> >> > Decapre.
>>>> >>> >> > When USF came out on console, the added the new changes and
>>>> Decapre
>>>> >>> >> > to
>>>> >>> >> > the
>>>> >>> >> > arcade version.
>>>> >>> >> >
>>>> >>> >> > cr HP with Elena used to be cancelable, but not any more. You
>>>> can
>>>> >>> >> > cancel
>>>> >>> >> > st
>>>> >>> >> > HP tho.
>>>> >>> >> > A nice punish is st HP>qcf MP>Ultra 1. No need for super meter
>>>> and
>>>> >>> >> > it
>>>> >>> >> > gives
>>>> >>> >> > 560 damage.
>>>> >>> >> >
>>>> >>> >> > I've been practicing her intended hit confirm off cr lk. the
>>>> cr lk
>>>> >>> >> > into
>>>> >>> >> > cr
>>>> >>> >> > lp is actually surprisingly easy for a 1 frame link, it has a
>>>> nice
>>>> >>> >> > easy
>>>> >>> >> > rhythm.
>>>> >>> >> > The cr lp into cr mp is bit harder, but substituting the cr mp
>>>> for
>>>> >>> >> > far
>>>> >>> >> > st lk
>>>> >>> >> > makes it much easier but gives less damage.
>>>> >>> >> >
>>>> >>> >> > I feel sorry for Dee Jay players tho. He was already so whack,
>>>> then
>>>> >>> >> > they
>>>> >>> >> > buffed his recovery on lk sobat from -5 to -3, but took away
>>>> it's
>>>> >>> >> > lower
>>>> >>> >> > body
>>>> >>> >> > invincibilty, so now he can't blow up crouch tech with that
>>>> move.
>>>> >>> >> >
>>>> >>> >> >
>>>> >>> >> >
>>>> >>> >> > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>> >> >>
>>>> >>> >> >> Nintendo is doing well with their announcement. They focus
>>>> more on
>>>> >>> >> >> gameplay than graphics.
>>>> >>> >> >>
>>>> >>> >> >> Maybe it's because of the issue with NicoNico and Nintendo.
>>>> >>> >> >>
>>>> >>> >> >>
>>>> >>> >> >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>>> >>> >> >>> Is there difference in elena between arcade and console? cos
>>>> in
>>>> >>> >> >>> arcade
>>>> >>> >> >>> i
>>>> >>> >> >>> saw cr.hp to rhino horn...while consoles you can't...
>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>>> >>> >> >>> It's a bit odd to have 2 different versions out...maybe they
>>>> can
>>>> >>> >> >>> update
>>>> >>> >> >>> the arcade version
>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>>> >>> >> >>>
>>>> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Ashraf Barendse
>>>> >>> >> >>> <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>> >>> >> >>>> Her sweep seems good as well. Nerfed slide doesn't seem too
>>>> bad.
>>>> >>> >> >>>> She has 2 overhead command normals that I know of.
>>>> >>> >> >>>> f mk is semi fast. and f mp gets you a combo afterwards but
>>>> is
>>>> >>> >> >>>> slower.
>>>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>> >>> >> >>>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Manase Zote <
>>>> bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> Ah c.lp, c.lk is not 1 frame it's 2 :)
>>>> >>> >> >>>>>
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Manase Zote <
>>>> bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> > Ah c.lp, c.mp is 1 frame and c.lp, c.lk is a 1 frame
>>>> link,
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> > c.lk,
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> > c.lp
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> > also a 1 frame link.
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> > I think FP, c.lp is also a 1 frame link another one is
>>>> after
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> > mallet
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> > smash(hcb+PP) and from her f+mp(overhead), c.lp.
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> > So far most of her significant links that lead to great
>>>> damage
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> > are
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> > 1
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> > frame :'(
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Ashraf Barendse
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> > <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >> Blanka has a weird hitbox. A lot of combos miss on
>>>> Elena as
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >> well,
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >> from what
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >> I've read, due to her low stance and the way she moves
>>>> back
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >> and
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >> forth.
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >> Justin Wong has been doing well with Elena, but she
>>>> seems
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >> like a
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >> tricky
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >> character to play. Deadly with meter though. The
>>>> pre-console
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >> changed
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >> version
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >> in Japanese arcades was definitely better.
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >> Kazunoko was destroying people with her. Sucks that
>>>> they made
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >> her
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >> hit-confirms from crouching lk 1-frame links now.
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Manase Zote
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >> <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> Copy and paste job...
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> > So yeah I mentioned earlier this week that Heat is
>>>> based
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> > on
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> > real
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> > events.
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> > Well, someone did it before them and...
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFsPDzSbgts#t=56m50s
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> > Seriously Michael Mann? You couldn't even switch the
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> > dialogue
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> > up
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> > a
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> > little
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>> > bit?
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>>
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