Re: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 08:07:42 +0200

Yah, tekken needs a stick fighter.  He needs to wear a bandanna.
On 7 Feb 2015 03:17, "Ashraf Barendse" <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Judge Judo.
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 11:10 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Judo Chop!
>> [image:
>> http://brilliantfantastic.com/assets/judo-full-348fa5ee4484c3d8a7f26e439eb9d722.png]
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Ashraf Barendse <
>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> They need to put in a proper Judoka. Someone like Goh from VF.
>>> And make her South African.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 6:54 PM, sameegh jardine <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> lol, I just noticed that SAGamer forum has a loadshedding indicator at
>>>> the top of the page. That's a pretty nifty feed (if a bit sad).
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That and persona.
>>>>> On 6 Feb 2015 18:32, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> yatagarasu?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 18:10:40 +0200
>>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>> From: bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who plays that game LB?
>>>>>> On 6 Feb 2015 18:00, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tekken is racist. Hello der, its ur friendly neighborhood anime
>>>>>> salesman. Today we hav a special on persona ultimax suplex hold for R400.
>>>>>> Anyone? Whens yatagarsu?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 16:59:50 +0200
>>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/s480x480/10959739_771433716288136_1558838750655320253_n.jpg?oh=6abb6d87adef73670cccd081eb483608&oe=55493461&__gda__=1432108113_7a139f8f2bdf142d0c0c9a97e46b69de
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brutality confirmed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I dont think they are all that different in the movies (Except of
>>>>>> course for the last one that completely went its own course).
>>>>>> They are the same but most of their inner or subtle emotions are
>>>>>> shown to the audience through behavior instead hinted at or through
>>>>>> internal monologues and whatnot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And for the trope I also came up with mostly robot/synthetic
>>>>>> girls...  but most of them had personality where rather "eccentric" when
>>>>>> they occasionally not chilled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 14:15:48 +0000
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  The movies are a different beast all together. Most of the
>>>>>> characters a changed in that one. It’s not like Asuka from the series is
>>>>>> the same as the movies either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmmm. Okay, I’d forgotten about Rei ignoring Gendo’s orders – or when
>>>>>> she gets infected. Yeah, by then she has developed an independent
>>>>>> personality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mostly the trope seems to be for the robot/synthetic girl thing. Now
>>>>>> that I think about it, I’m also having trouble remembering clear 
>>>>>> examples.
>>>>>> That’s also because I can’t remember details from a lot of shows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
>>>>>> *Sent:* 06 February 2015 3:42 PM
>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Cant remember all details clearly lol... used know my eva stuff by
>>>>>> heart some years ago.
>>>>>> You could probably describe Rei as emotionless, unhappy/depressed
>>>>>> with low self worth(Sees herself as a replaceable tool).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the show she essentially "likes" not feeling miserable :P
>>>>>> Due her low self worth midset the interaction with other humans is
>>>>>> important to her.  Also why her early "responses" are related to Gendo
>>>>>> and/or his glasses.
>>>>>> Early on its only Gendo but that changes after the Shinji joins and
>>>>>> later Asuka etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The lack of her acting out in normal circumstances makes the few
>>>>>> times she does more important.  Smiling/Laughing when talking to Gendo,
>>>>>> Hitting shinji, her self sacrifice near the end and defying Gendo. (Im 
>>>>>> sure
>>>>>> there are more but I havent watched the original in ages).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the beginning it looks like she would simply just follow her order
>>>>>> because they are orders later on she makes her decisions herself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All of this is much less subtle and clear in the first 2 Rebuild
>>>>>> movies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cant remember the Alisa stuff clearly :/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding the "trope" in general.  I thought that I was familiar with
>>>>>> the trope but now Im struggling to think of characters who can be 
>>>>>> described
>>>>>> by it.
>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>  From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 12:35:03 +0000
>>>>>>  Hmmm. Not sure if we’ll agree on Rei. What exactly do you recall
>>>>>> about her personality? Did she have any likes or dislikes? Did she have 
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> real reason for doing anything, I mean other than because Gendo asked 
>>>>>> her?
>>>>>> I suppose you could consider being subservient a personality type. What
>>>>>> exactly were her defining characteristics – and I don’t mean physical.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does Alisa wake up with a personality? I don’t remember the storyline
>>>>>> well enough, so I could easily be wrong, but I don’t recall her being
>>>>>> anything but a blank slate when she woke up. I don’t mean that she lacked
>>>>>> all information, just that she didn’t have any personality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I might be willing to grant you the Rei thing – there are some points
>>>>>> in the series where she does seem to be getting a personality. I’d say 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> the wipes/resets of her are part of the reason she qualifies though. 
>>>>>> While
>>>>>> the others may start out with no personality, Rei is continually
>>>>>> reset/reborn.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What links them for me is mainly the nature in which they acquire
>>>>>> personality – through almost exclusive interaction with a single male on
>>>>>> whom they form an attachment. Anyways, while examples may differ, you’ll
>>>>>> grant this is not a trope with which you are unfamiliar, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For me the idea behind the character is lousy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
>>>>>> Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
>>>>>> *Sent:* 06 February 2015 12:54 PM
>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Cant agree with that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rei's lack of showing emotion is not the same as lacking
>>>>>> personality/soul.  I dont think her personality changes much during the
>>>>>> show, it just becomes apparent later once she actually gets to interacts
>>>>>> with people besides Gendo.
>>>>>> Her motivations change and they start changing fairly early(before ep
>>>>>> 8) in the show...  it doesnt help that she essentially gets
>>>>>> killed/replaced/reset during the show :P
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But what she does makes perfect sense considering her personality and
>>>>>> circumstances.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Her personality is a bit more pronounced in the new movies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I dunno about alisa.  From what I can remember of the game
>>>>>> storie/cutscenes and movie she seems to have personality just fine and 
>>>>>> her
>>>>>> own motivations.  Her essentially getting "mind controlled" for certain
>>>>>> periods of time doesnt detract from what she otherwise does willingly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are both independent characters imo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only blank slate here is Chi.  Its how she was written and she
>>>>>> essentially starts out as a empty canvas.
>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>  From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 09:48:25 +0000
>>>>>>  Rei  is a clone created with no soul and no personality. She may be
>>>>>> flesh and blood, but there is no difference between her and a robot.
>>>>>> All of them have personalities in the end, but they don’t start with
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>> Also, by the end of Eva, Rei’s hopes and dreams all that junk still
>>>>>> don’t amount to more than what’s been given to her (i.e. Gendo’s plan or
>>>>>> Shinji’s decision). Chi is purely a product of Hideki. Alisa is just 
>>>>>> doing
>>>>>> what Lars wants, until she gets the Jin wipe.
>>>>>> None of them exist as independent characters. Sometimes characters in
>>>>>> the stories will assume human motivations or such things, but usually
>>>>>> they’re just lying to themselves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alisa is a different story in her endings – I mean she seems to be
>>>>>> attending school and actually not just sitting in Lars’ broom closet
>>>>>> waiting for him to get home.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
>>>>>> Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
>>>>>> *Sent:* 06 February 2015 11:40 AM
>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Eh...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I dont really see the connections that binds those 3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rei & Chi the "emotionless" aspect.
>>>>>> Chi & Alisa are both "young" naive robots.
>>>>>> I think Rei and Alisa have got personalities tho but not really Chi.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only one of the chars who really fits the trope I think you are
>>>>>> describing would be Chi imo
>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>  From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 09:12:44 +0000
>>>>>>  Ugh. I have a dislike for the trope. She’s the same as Rei in Eva,
>>>>>> or Chi in Chobits. Female characters with no personality. I understand 
>>>>>> why
>>>>>> they’re popular – they can in no way ever be threatening or take any
>>>>>> decisions which will negatively impact the people in their lives. They 
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> have no personality flaws because all they will ever have learned comes
>>>>>> from the (usually pathetic) main character on whom they are dependent. 
>>>>>> It’s
>>>>>> a pretty insulting phenomenon.
>>>>>> Effectively they’re blow-up dolls who can also clean the house and do
>>>>>> laundry. Character design? What a joke.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
>>>>>> Behalf Of *Di Lhong
>>>>>> *Sent:* 06 February 2015 10:58 AM
>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Alisa is still there -_-"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  As cheerful as I am to see Paul and King there, what happened to
>>>>>> Nina? Or for that matter, Lei, the Capos, Bob, Changs, Zafina… Happy that
>>>>>> Kuma, the ‘roos and Alisa are gone. Not sure I like that they’ve been
>>>>>> replaced by a Quincy and neko-chan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hopefully some more of the mainstays make it back. I can’t believe
>>>>>> that they’ll release a Tekken without Nina or Yoshi. They’ve made every
>>>>>> previous incarnation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Manase Zote
>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2015 7:43 PM
>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 13 days?
>>>>>> Not possible. Lol
>>>>>>  On 5 Feb 2015 19:29, "Di Lhong" <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  13 days and counting...Namco better get their shit together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Same here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  The game itself looks good imo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  But that doest help me till they add my characters.
>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>  Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 18:33:32 +0200
>>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>  Characters aside I like the look of T7 :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On 5 February 2015 at 18:08, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll rather wait until TxSF is released. Even though they haven't
>>>>>> released any game play footage, l doubt it'll be as bad as T7.
>>>>>>  On 5 Feb 2015 18:03, "Stephen Scheidel" <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I just noticed how stupid Bryan looks in his picture.
>>>>>>  How does the Tekken team always let these goofy ass smiles find
>>>>>> their way into the game.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On 5 February 2015 at 18:00, Stephen Scheidel <
>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Lee is the most important character in Tekken and I deserve
>>>>>> everything I want.
>>>>>>  Fuck Tekken right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On 5 February 2015 at 17:28, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Luckily I like multiple GG characters...  including a new addition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tekkens new additions suck ass.
>>>>>> And none of my interested characters are there...   Yoshi or Jack
>>>>>> would have been acceptable if Lei was absent.
>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>  From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 15:13:50 +0000
>>>>>>  Well GG released without your main as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> …although he may still be released and I don’t know about Tekken
>>>>>> adding lots more characters to come…
>>>>>> Maybe they’re keeping Lei as a surprise…
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2015 3:40 PM
>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Official Tekken 7  Website is online
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With a character list...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk7ac/character/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently giving zero fucks about this game
>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>  Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 03:50:30 -0800
>>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>> From: greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Serious?? Sounds cool
>>>>>>  On Feb 5, 2015 1:29 PM, "Wynand-Ben" <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  You can test it with multiple displays and high speed camera.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Ive seen dedicated hardware that tests lag as well.  Little box
>>>>>> with senson and hdmi cable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Plug into TV.
>>>>>>  Point at the screen.
>>>>>>  Presson button.
>>>>>>  And it measures the lag.
>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>  Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 03:26:48 -0800
>>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>> From: greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Hardware like???
>>>>>>  On Feb 5, 2015 1:20 PM, "Wynand-Ben" <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Cant just use software program to test input lag.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  You need the correct hardware to do proper tests.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Other than that you just have to "feel it out"
>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>  Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 03:15:36 -0800
>>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>> From: greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> You have confused me with a really difficult question,, I guess I use
>>>>>> TEKKEN and SF,, its really good compared to the last screen I had to play
>>>>>> on,, it was a HD TV with about 4 - 5 frames of lag, horrible
>>>>>>  On Feb 5, 2015 1:13 PM, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Which one do you play and do combos on Rich, the program/app for
>>>>>> testing lag or fighting games?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:02 PM, richard moorcroft <
>>>>>> greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't there a program that you can use to test input lag?? There
>>>>>> should be something like this
>>>>>>   On Feb 5, 2015 12:53 PM, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Links(just frames), juggles, rekka type moves, movement are all
>>>>>> vital when testing lag :)
>>>>>>  Good choices there SAP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tekken, Mahvel, SF and VF
>>>>>>   On 5 Feb 2015 12:28, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Out of interest, which games did you use for testing, Sap?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Manase Zote
>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2015 12:27 PM
>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  This is the best method, old school but it works. lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or get a Hisense. Haven't experienced any lag issues with mine.
>>>>>> Tested it in - store with several games.
>>>>>>   On 5 Feb 2015 12:15, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Really good monitors are stupidly expensive. Find some nice HD tv
>>>>>> that doesn’t have too much random extra processing going on – like the 
>>>>>> old
>>>>>> Bravias. Get one of those and live with the 1-2f lag. It doesn’t kill the
>>>>>> game or anything. You’ve played on my TV. While it does have a couple
>>>>>> frames lag more than Paas’ screen, it’s not a problem and you adjust very
>>>>>> quickly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong
>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2015 12:13 PM
>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  The price is a bit harsh...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Meh... at this price you're better off importing a known lag-free
>>>>>> monitor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.uprice.co.za/p/AOC-G2460PQU-24-inch-Gaming-Monitor/41408280/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   The AOC's do lag.  From 1f to 5f depending on the model.  The
>>>>>> non-3D version is better value for money.
>>>>>>  If you want to go with AOC, get 24 inch"G" model.  TomsHardware
>>>>>> says it has about 1f of input lag.  It uses a Twisted Nematic panel (TN).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://us.aoc.com/monitor_displays/g2460pqu
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:00 AM, lindsey kiviets <
>>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  that's my monitor and I have no lag.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> best picture, however the cake is a lie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the bezel of the monitor is not as thin as in the picture.
>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>  From: paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 06:21:10 +0000
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  IPS monitor?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Im sure the lag is not in my head now.  I dont think you get IPS
>>>>>> "gaming" monitors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IPS monitors give better colours and viewing angles but anything
>>>>>> gaming/performance/response related will be a TN panel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would recommend going for a non IPS monitor
>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>  Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 07:45:34 +0200
>>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>> From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Nope, this one
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.kalahari.com/Technology/AOC-23-D2367PH-IPS-3D-Monitor_p_48293402
>>>>>>  On 4 Feb 2015 17:12, "Di Lhong" <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Is this the AOC you're talking about nic?
>>>>>>  http://www.wootware.co.za/aoc-e2370sd-23-1920x1080-led-monitor.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Anyone have any experience with LG mp55hq?
>>>>>>  http://www.wootware.co.za/lg-23mp55hq-23-ips.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
>>>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pretty good, 3k.
>>>>>>   On 4 Feb 2015 15:14, "Di Lhong" <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  How are the AOC screens in terms of lag? how much are they? need to
>>>>>> get a screen for my pc...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  *LOL*
>>>>>>  Cool bro.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:54 PM, euraima tobias <euraima@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Np mz, you know where to find me whoever feels like pressing buttons.
>>>>>>   On 04 Feb 2015 2:32 PM, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  He is going out tonight so he won't attend and that includes me too
>>>>>> :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:23 PM, euraima tobias <euraima@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm easy just let me know. What about Sap?
>>>>>>   On 04 Feb 2015 1:37 PM, "sameegh jardine" <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Haha, nah it's no worries bro. Next time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Actually about tonight, is it only Khan, Nic and I? (I know Salie
>>>>>> is a maybe)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Should we postpone to next week?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sadly I have obligations that could not get out of in Paarl this
>>>>>> evening
>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>  Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 13:25:06 +0200
>>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>> From: sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Paas plz.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Btw im sadly not going to be able to make it to tonights session
>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>  Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 13:06:04 +0200
>>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>> From: sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Zidane has been beasting with that Leo on Spooky's stream for a
>>>>>> while now. Mynus is probably the best Ino player in the states (he 
>>>>>> usually
>>>>>> gets bopped by Zidane though).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Playing against Faust seems frustrating, his neutral game is really
>>>>>> solid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Ah Apex.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I watched the that on stream.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Was good.  Leo & Ino in top 3...  Was pretty hype when Leo reset
>>>>>> against Faust in Grand finals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fuck the meteors tho :P
>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>  Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:31:29 +0200
>>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think Manase meant Apex?
>>>>>>  On 4 Feb 2015 11:30, "Di Lhong" <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  They need to make a complete version of Soul Calibur 5! with all
>>>>>> the original cast...Alpha Pat can't replace Setsuka!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  PAX is this March i think. Boston?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Its hard for me...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2D has GG
>>>>>> 3D has Sour Kariba
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What/where was the Pax tourney?  Was stuff recorded/streamed?
>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>  Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:04:06 +0200
>>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>> From: bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  2D fighters all the way!!!
>>>>>>  You lost me Nick when you mentioned MK...
>>>>>>  Enough about the doomed 3D fighting game genre and more GG XRD
>>>>>> please.
>>>>>>  I see at PAX there were no strong Sol players instead lots of tier
>>>>>> whoring...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
>>>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you were stuck on an island somewhere, would you choose to have
>>>>>> current 2d plane fighting games with you, or current 3d plane games with
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>> I know where I stand, I'll miss Jojo's ASB tho.
>>>>>> As a fighting game fan, I think it's a decline in the 3d interest.  I
>>>>>> believe the reason is that the characters are simply too similar.  The 3d
>>>>>> movement is the same for most.  The movesets too similar.
>>>>>> It's something I disliked about MK as well... to some extent anyway.
>>>>>>   On 4 Feb 2015 09:41, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  VF5 – people realise it is boring and don’t play it much
>>>>>> T6:BR – Tekken scene declines.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, it’s sneaky how they follow the VF trends.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Williams
>>>>>> *Sent:* 04 February 2015 8:55 AM
>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was 'borrowed' from Virtua Fighter.
>>>>>> You can trace these things back to VF2 days.
>>>>>> VF2 - Sega adds characters with 3D axis movement
>>>>>> T2 - Namco follows suit
>>>>>> VF3 - Sega adds undulating stages and a new 'evade' mechanic
>>>>>> (Essentially a sidestep button but multi-purpose). Some stages are also
>>>>>> enclosed (have walls).
>>>>>> T3 - Namco also introduces a sidestep mechanic. The walls and
>>>>>> undulating stages first make an appearance in T4.
>>>>>> VF5 - Sega introduces a B! mechanic.
>>>>>> T6 - Namco introduces a B! mechanic.
>>>>>> If you follow the chronology of these releases, you will see that
>>>>>> Namco would typically release a new Tekken a year (sometimes more) or so
>>>>>> after the release of a new Virtua Fighter.
>>>>>>  On 4 Feb 2015 08:38, "richard moorcroft" <
>>>>>> greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who's mechanic then?? Some other fighter??
>>>>>>  On Feb 4, 2015 8:30 AM, "Ryan Williams" <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote: Because it was never their mechanic to begin with. On 4 Feb 2015
>>>>>> 07:52, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Dear Namco, How can
>>>>>> you not get the main system mechanic right? Oh I forgot it's all about 
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> juggles ;) From a few matches I saw Bryan is another victim of this 
>>>>>> system
>>>>>> change, Mr Naps got owned in a Japanese tournament because of weak 
>>>>>> combos.
>>>>>> On 3 Feb 2015 17:14, "Di Lhong" <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: This
>>>>>> is according to current version. Not sure how he'll end up though. But 
>>>>>> he's
>>>>>> one of the few characters who doesn't suffer from not having B!   On Tue,
>>>>>> Feb 3, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Sweet. He's been threatening
>>>>>> to move out the mid-tiers for a while now. Sent from my Windows Phone
>>>>>> ________________________________ From: Di Lhong<mailto:
>>>>>> geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎03 16:28 To:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re:
>>>>>> DRE: CTS community mail Good news for Paul in T7. JDCR and Knee said he's
>>>>>> top tier. A lot of the characters got indirect nerf from removing B!... 
>>>>>> Law
>>>>>> is bottom tier. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>> wrote: How will tricking Di into getting an xbone get you more friends?
>>>>>> Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: lindsey
>>>>>> kiviets<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>> Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎03 16:07 To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail It was
>>>>>> worth a try. :( i hav no friends ________________________________ Date:
>>>>>> Tue, 3 Feb 2015 16:02:18 +0200 Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail From:
>>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> LB plz. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:57
>>>>>> PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: Get a xbone. There a dude on the
>>>>>> forum selling one for 4800 with 2 games ________________________________
>>>>>> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:48:20 +0200 Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>>> geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>> To:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Anyone know the
>>>>>> price of a PS3 console nowadays? i think it's time for me to invest in 
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> lolz On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Wynand-Ben <
>>>>>> paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>>> paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: Ky
>>>>>> > From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail >
>>>>>> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 13:34:05 +0000 > > I have retreated to the 
>>>>>> mountains
>>>>>> to improve my Kai game. > > Sent from my Windows Phone >
>>>>>> ________________________________ > From: sameegh jardine<mailto:
>>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>> > Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎03 14:57 > To:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> > Subject: Re:
>>>>>> DRE: CTS community mail > > Stu plz. > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:33 PM,
>>>>>> Donaldson, Alasdair <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> ><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote: > -1 for a session. > >
>>>>>> Sent from my Windows Phone > ________________________________ > From:
>>>>>> Nicholas Robertson-Muir<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> >><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>>>> > Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎03
>>>>>> 14:30 > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> ><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>> > Subject:
>>>>>> Re: DRE: CTS community mail > > > +1 for session. > > On 3 Feb 2015 
>>>>>> 14:24,
>>>>>> "Sameegh Jardine" <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> ><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> >><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote: > +1 if
>>>>>> there's a session > > On 03 Feb 2015, at 2:12 PM, euraima tobias <
>>>>>> euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> euraima@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> >>><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>>> euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> euraima@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote: > > > Are we sessioning tomorrow? Let
>>>>>> me know who's keen? > > On 03 Feb 2015 1:55 PM, "sameegh jardine" <
>>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> >>><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote: > lol, this makes me remember the time
>>>>>> you had an argument with the guy at Wonderland around the buttons/sticks
>>>>>> they use as opposed to the Japanese brands > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 
>>>>>> 1:33
>>>>>> PM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote: > And charge +- R4000 for that
>>>>>> shit. > Are they fucking mad !!!?? > > > > Rant over > back to work > > 
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> 3 February 2015 at 13:32, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote: > It actually makes me fucking
>>>>>> furious that these shit eating cock ring coasters think they can slap a 
>>>>>> few
>>>>>> rands worth of antiquated electronics and a pirated bootleg ass broken 
>>>>>> PCB
>>>>>> in to some cheap chip board and try call it a retro arcade cabinet. > 
>>>>>> Shit
>>>>>> is fake first of all and secondly there is a huge difference between 
>>>>>> retro
>>>>>> and plain old broken shit. > > > > On 3 February 2015 at 13:16, Stephen
>>>>>> Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> ><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> >><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> ><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> >>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> ><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> >><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> ><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote: > I could never buy such poor cabs. > They are overpriced and
>>>>>> terribly made with wrong everything. > The thing that pisses me off is 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> these fucking vultures are ripping people off > that don't know better. 
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> These are not game koppe > fuck them. > > On 3 February 2015 at 11:30,
>>>>>> Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>>> bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>> bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> >><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>>> bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote: > > Lol > The
>>>>>> controls need an overhaul since sanwa/seimatsu parts are not only better
>>>>>> but also different from our local ones which suck ass. > > On 3 Feb 2015
>>>>>> 10:33, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
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