Re: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: richard moorcroft <greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 03:15:36 -0800

You have confused me with a really difficult question,, I guess I use
TEKKEN and SF,, its really good compared to the last screen I had to play
on,, it was a HD TV with about 4 - 5 frames of lag, horrible
On Feb 5, 2015 1:13 PM, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Which one do you play and do combos on Rich, the program/app for testing
> lag or fighting games?
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:02 PM, richard moorcroft <
> greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Isn't there a program that you can use to test input lag?? There should
>> be something like this
>> On Feb 5, 2015 12:53 PM, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Links(just frames), juggles, rekka type moves, movement are all vital
>>> when testing lag :)
>>> Good choices there SAP.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tekken, Mahvel, SF and VF
>>>> On 5 Feb 2015 12:28, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Out of interest, which games did you use for testing, Sap?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Manase Zote
>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2015 12:27 PM
>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the best method, old school but it works. lol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Or get a Hisense. Haven't experienced any lag issues with mine. Tested
>>>>> it in - store with several games.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5 Feb 2015 12:15, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Really good monitors are stupidly expensive. Find some nice HD tv
>>>>> that doesn’t have too much random extra processing going on – like the old
>>>>> Bravias. Get one of those and live with the 1-2f lag. It doesn’t kill the
>>>>> game or anything. You’ve played on my TV. While it does have a couple
>>>>> frames lag more than Paas’ screen, it’s not a problem and you adjust very
>>>>> quickly.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong
>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2015 12:13 PM
>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The price is a bit harsh...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Meh... at this price you're better off importing a known lag-free
>>>>> monitor.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.uprice.co.za/p/AOC-G2460PQU-24-inch-Gaming-Monitor/41408280/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   The AOC's do lag.  From 1f to 5f depending on the model.  The
>>>>> non-3D version is better value for money.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to go with AOC, get 24 inch"G" model.  TomsHardware says
>>>>> it has about 1f of input lag.  It uses a Twisted Nematic panel (TN).
>>>>>
>>>>> http://us.aoc.com/monitor_displays/g2460pqu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:00 AM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  that's my monitor and I have no lag.
>>>>>
>>>>> best picture, however the cake is a lie.
>>>>>
>>>>> the bezel of the monitor is not as thin as in the picture.
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> From: paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 06:21:10 +0000
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> IPS monitor?
>>>>>
>>>>> Im sure the lag is not in my head now.  I dont think you get IPS
>>>>> "gaming" monitors.
>>>>>
>>>>> IPS monitors give better colours and viewing angles but anything
>>>>> gaming/performance/response related will be a TN panel.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would recommend going for a non IPS monitor
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 07:45:34 +0200
>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, this one
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.kalahari.com/Technology/AOC-23-D2367PH-IPS-3D-Monitor_p_48293402
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4 Feb 2015 17:12, "Di Lhong" <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Is this the AOC you're talking about nic?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.wootware.co.za/aoc-e2370sd-23-1920x1080-led-monitor.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have any experience with LG mp55hq?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.wootware.co.za/lg-23mp55hq-23-ips.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
>>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Pretty good, 3k.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4 Feb 2015 15:14, "Di Lhong" <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  How are the AOC screens in terms of lag? how much are they? need to
>>>>> get a screen for my pc...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  *LOL*
>>>>>
>>>>> Cool bro.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:54 PM, euraima tobias <euraima@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Np mz, you know where to find me whoever feels like pressing buttons.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04 Feb 2015 2:32 PM, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  He is going out tonight so he won't attend and that includes me too
>>>>> :(
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:23 PM, euraima tobias <euraima@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm easy just let me know. What about Sap?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04 Feb 2015 1:37 PM, "sameegh jardine" <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Haha, nah it's no worries bro. Next time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually about tonight, is it only Khan, Nic and I? (I know Salie is a
>>>>> maybe)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Should we postpone to next week?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  :(
>>>>>
>>>>> Sadly I have obligations that could not get out of in Paarl this
>>>>> evening
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 13:25:06 +0200
>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> From: sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Paas plz.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Btw im sadly not going to be able to make it to tonights session
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 13:06:04 +0200
>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> From: sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Zidane has been beasting with that Leo on Spooky's stream for a while
>>>>> now. Mynus is probably the best Ino player in the states (he usually gets
>>>>> bopped by Zidane though).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Playing against Faust seems frustrating, his neutral game is really
>>>>> solid.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Ah Apex.
>>>>>
>>>>> I watched the that on stream.
>>>>>
>>>>> Was good.  Leo & Ino in top 3...  Was pretty hype when Leo reset
>>>>> against Faust in Grand finals.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fuck the meteors tho :P
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:31:29 +0200
>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think Manase meant Apex?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4 Feb 2015 11:30, "Di Lhong" <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  They need to make a complete version of Soul Calibur 5! with all the
>>>>> original cast...Alpha Pat can't replace Setsuka!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> PAX is this March i think. Boston?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Its hard for me...
>>>>>
>>>>> 2D has GG
>>>>> 3D has Sour Kariba
>>>>>
>>>>> What/where was the Pax tourney?  Was stuff recorded/streamed?
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:04:06 +0200
>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> From: bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2D fighters all the way!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> You lost me Nick when you mentioned MK...
>>>>>
>>>>> Enough about the doomed 3D fighting game genre and more GG XRD please.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see at PAX there were no strong Sol players instead lots of tier
>>>>> whoring...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
>>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you were stuck on an island somewhere, would you choose to have
>>>>> current 2d plane fighting games with you, or current 3d plane games with
>>>>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know where I stand, I'll miss Jojo's ASB tho.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a fighting game fan, I think it's a decline in the 3d interest.  I
>>>>> believe the reason is that the characters are simply too similar.  The 3d
>>>>> movement is the same for most.  The movesets too similar.
>>>>> It's something I disliked about MK as well... to some extent anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4 Feb 2015 09:41, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  VF5 – people realise it is boring and don’t play it much
>>>>> T6:BR – Tekken scene declines.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, it’s sneaky how they follow the VF trends.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Williams
>>>>> *Sent:* 04 February 2015 8:55 AM
>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>
>>>>> It was 'borrowed' from Virtua Fighter.
>>>>> You can trace these things back to VF2 days.
>>>>> VF2 - Sega adds characters with 3D axis movement
>>>>> T2 - Namco follows suit
>>>>> VF3 - Sega adds undulating stages and a new 'evade' mechanic
>>>>> (Essentially a sidestep button but multi-purpose). Some stages are also
>>>>> enclosed (have walls).
>>>>> T3 - Namco also introduces a sidestep mechanic. The walls and
>>>>> undulating stages first make an appearance in T4.
>>>>> VF5 - Sega introduces a B! mechanic.
>>>>> T6 - Namco introduces a B! mechanic.
>>>>> If you follow the chronology of these releases, you will see that
>>>>> Namco would typically release a new Tekken a year (sometimes more) or so
>>>>> after the release of a new Virtua Fighter.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4 Feb 2015 08:38, "richard moorcroft" <greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Who's mechanic then?? Some other fighter??
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015 8:30 AM, "Ryan Williams" <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Because it was never their mechanic to begin with.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4 Feb 2015 07:52, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Namco,
>>>>> How can you not get the main system mechanic right?
>>>>> Oh I forgot it's all about them juggles ;)
>>>>> From a few matches I saw Bryan is another victim of this system
>>>>> change, Mr Naps got owned in a Japanese tournament because of weak combos.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3 Feb 2015 17:14, "Di Lhong" <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  This is according to current version. Not sure how he'll end up
>>>>> though. But he's one of the few characters who doesn't suffer from not
>>>>> having B!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sweet. He's been threatening to move out the mid-tiers for a while now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Di Lhong<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎03 16:28
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>
>>>>> Good news for Paul in T7. JDCR and Knee said he's top tier. A lot of
>>>>> the characters got indirect nerf from removing B!...
>>>>>
>>>>> Law is bottom tier.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> How will tricking Di into getting an xbone get you more friends?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: lindsey kiviets<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>> Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎03 16:07
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>
>>>>> It was worth a try. :( i hav no friends
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 16:02:18 +0200
>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> From: sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>> LB plz.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:57 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>>>>> Get a xbone. There a dude on the forum selling one for 4800 with 2
>>>>> games
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:48:20 +0200
>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone know the price of a PS3 console nowadays? i think it's time for
>>>>> me to invest in one lolz
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>>>>> Ky
>>>>>
>>>>> > From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>> > Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 13:34:05 +0000
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I have retreated to the mountains to improve my Kai game.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sent from my Windows Phone
>>>>> > ________________________________
>>>>> > From: sameegh jardine<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> > Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎03 14:57
>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
>>>>> > Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Stu plz.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> ><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > -1 for a session.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sent from my Windows Phone
>>>>> > ________________________________
>>>>> > From: Nicholas Robertson-Muir<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>>>>
>>>>> > Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎03 14:30
>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
>>>>> > Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > +1 for session.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 3 Feb 2015 14:24, "Sameegh Jardine" <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> ><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > +1 if there's a session
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 03 Feb 2015, at 2:12 PM, euraima tobias <euraima@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> euraima@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> ><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:
>>>>> euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> euraima@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Are we sessioning tomorrow? Let me know who's keen?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 03 Feb 2015 1:55 PM, "sameegh jardine" <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> ><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > lol, this makes me remember the time you had an argument with the
>>>>> guy at Wonderland around the buttons/sticks they use as opposed to the
>>>>> Japanese brands
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Stephen Scheidel <
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > And charge +- R4000 for that shit.
>>>>> > Are they fucking mad !!!??
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Rant over
>>>>> > back to work
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 3 February 2015 at 13:32, Stephen Scheidel <
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > It actually makes me fucking furious that these shit eating cock
>>>>> ring coasters think they can slap a few rands worth of antiquated
>>>>> electronics and a pirated bootleg ass broken PCB in to some cheap chip
>>>>> board and try call it a retro arcade cabinet.
>>>>> > Shit is fake first of all and secondly there is a huge difference
>>>>> between retro and plain old broken shit.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 3 February 2015 at 13:16, Stephen Scheidel <
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > I could never buy such poor cabs.
>>>>> > They are overpriced and terribly made with wrong everything.
>>>>> > The thing that pisses me off is that these fucking vultures are
>>>>> ripping people off
>>>>> > that don't know better.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > These are not game koppe
>>>>> > fuck them.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 3 February 2015 at 11:30, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> ><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Lol
>>>>> > The controls need an overhaul since sanwa/seimatsu parts are not
>>>>> only better but also different from our local ones which suck ass.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 3 Feb 2015 10:33, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > @OGRS,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Can you put in an extra hole coz theres a kof cab with 3 buttons.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ________________________________
>>>>> > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 10:27:46 +0200
>>>>> > Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> > From: bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> ><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>>>>
>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Yo guys, someone in Goodwood is selling arcade cabs left right and
>>>>> centre on Gumtree!
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> http://www.gumtree.co.za/s-other/western-cape/page-4/v1c9520l3100001p4
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 3 Feb 2015 02:30, "Brian ..." <dmfu360@xxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> dmfu360@xxxxxxxx><mailto:dmfu360@xxxxxxxx<mailto:dmfu360@xxxxxxxx
>>>>> >><mailto:dmfu360@xxxxxxxx<mailto:dmfu360@xxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> dmfu360@xxxxxxxx<mailto:dmfu360@xxxxxxxx>>><mailto:dmfu360@xxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:dmfu360@xxxxxxxx><mailto:dmfu360@xxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> dmfu360@xxxxxxxx>><mailto:dmfu360@xxxxxxxx<mailto:dmfu360@xxxxxxxx
>>>>> ><mailto:dmfu360@xxxxxxxx<mailto:dmfu360@xxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > lol man I think I had way more fun with this than I should have.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sent from Windows Mail
>>>>> >
>>>>> > From: sameegh jardine<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>>>
>>>>> > Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎02‎ ‎February‎ ‎2015 ‎11‎:‎30‎ ‎PM
>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > For the Bayonetta peeps
>>>>> >
>>>>> > http://www.platinumgames.co.jp/404/
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 10:51 PM, sameegh jardine <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> ><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Haha, would never have guessed that there was method to the madness.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 7:06 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Hehe, as expected we were playing the game wrong.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Basics:
>>>>> > - Get 10 coins as fast as possible. Coins increase your max speed,
>>>>> they cap out at 10
>>>>> > - Perform stunt jumps off all the ramps. Just press hop/drift on a
>>>>> ramp. Your char will do a stunt and you'll get a small speed boost.
>>>>> > - Drift *all* the time. Short drifts activate a mini-turbo, longer
>>>>> drifts activate a super turbo. Quite hard to get the hang of it, but
>>>>> extremely fun and satisfying.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 6:54 PM, sameegh jardine <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> ><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > MK8 was awesome. The FGC racing league has a... long way to go :P
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > PsychoRarity has a cool YT channel.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > https://www.youtube.com/user/psychorarity/videos
>>>>> >
>>>>> > He uploads FG videos that were considered lost, or stuff that's hard
>>>>> to find. He recently uploaded 18 hours of VS footage, 6 hours of Tekken 5
>>>>> DR, and about 2 hours of VF4 and VF5 stuff, amongst a whole bunch of other
>>>>> stuff.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Mario Kart 8 pwned me yesterday. The skill cap is quite high.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
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