Re: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: Ashraf Barendse <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 03:17:32 +0200

Judge Judo.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 11:10 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Judo Chop!
> [image:
> http://brilliantfantastic.com/assets/judo-full-348fa5ee4484c3d8a7f26e439eb9d722.png]
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Ashraf Barendse <
> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> They need to put in a proper Judoka. Someone like Goh from VF.
>> And make her South African.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 6:54 PM, sameegh jardine <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> lol, I just noticed that SAGamer forum has a loadshedding indicator at
>>> the top of the page. That's a pretty nifty feed (if a bit sad).
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That and persona.
>>>> On 6 Feb 2015 18:32, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> yatagarasu?
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 18:10:40 +0200
>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> From: bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> Who plays that game LB?
>>>>> On 6 Feb 2015 18:00, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Tekken is racist. Hello der, its ur friendly neighborhood anime
>>>>> salesman. Today we hav a special on persona ultimax suplex hold for R400.
>>>>> Anyone? Whens yatagarsu?
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 16:59:50 +0200
>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/s480x480/10959739_771433716288136_1558838750655320253_n.jpg?oh=6abb6d87adef73670cccd081eb483608&oe=55493461&__gda__=1432108113_7a139f8f2bdf142d0c0c9a97e46b69de
>>>>>
>>>>> Brutality confirmed?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I dont think they are all that different in the movies (Except of
>>>>> course for the last one that completely went its own course).
>>>>> They are the same but most of their inner or subtle emotions are shown
>>>>> to the audience through behavior instead hinted at or through internal
>>>>> monologues and whatnot.
>>>>>
>>>>> And for the trope I also came up with mostly robot/synthetic girls...
>>>>> but most of them had personality where rather "eccentric" when they
>>>>> occasionally not chilled.
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 14:15:48 +0000
>>>>>
>>>>>  The movies are a different beast all together. Most of the
>>>>> characters a changed in that one. It’s not like Asuka from the series is
>>>>> the same as the movies either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm. Okay, I’d forgotten about Rei ignoring Gendo’s orders – or when
>>>>> she gets infected. Yeah, by then she has developed an independent
>>>>> personality.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mostly the trope seems to be for the robot/synthetic girl thing. Now
>>>>> that I think about it, I’m also having trouble remembering clear examples.
>>>>> That’s also because I can’t remember details from a lot of shows.
>>>>>
>>>>>  *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
>>>>> *Sent:* 06 February 2015 3:42 PM
>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>
>>>>>  Cant remember all details clearly lol... used know my eva stuff by
>>>>> heart some years ago.
>>>>> You could probably describe Rei as emotionless, unhappy/depressed with
>>>>> low self worth(Sees herself as a replaceable tool).
>>>>>
>>>>> For the show she essentially "likes" not feeling miserable :P
>>>>> Due her low self worth midset the interaction with other humans is
>>>>> important to her.  Also why her early "responses" are related to Gendo
>>>>> and/or his glasses.
>>>>> Early on its only Gendo but that changes after the Shinji joins and
>>>>> later Asuka etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> The lack of her acting out in normal circumstances makes the few times
>>>>> she does more important.  Smiling/Laughing when talking to Gendo, Hitting
>>>>> shinji, her self sacrifice near the end and defying Gendo. (Im sure there
>>>>> are more but I havent watched the original in ages).
>>>>>
>>>>> In the beginning it looks like she would simply just follow her order
>>>>> because they are orders later on she makes her decisions herself.
>>>>>
>>>>> All of this is much less subtle and clear in the first 2 Rebuild
>>>>> movies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cant remember the Alisa stuff clearly :/
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding the "trope" in general.  I thought that I was familiar with
>>>>> the trope but now Im struggling to think of characters who can be 
>>>>> described
>>>>> by it.
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>  From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 12:35:03 +0000
>>>>>  Hmmm. Not sure if we’ll agree on Rei. What exactly do you recall
>>>>> about her personality? Did she have any likes or dislikes? Did she have 
>>>>> any
>>>>> real reason for doing anything, I mean other than because Gendo asked her?
>>>>> I suppose you could consider being subservient a personality type. What
>>>>> exactly were her defining characteristics – and I don’t mean physical.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does Alisa wake up with a personality? I don’t remember the storyline
>>>>> well enough, so I could easily be wrong, but I don’t recall her being
>>>>> anything but a blank slate when she woke up. I don’t mean that she lacked
>>>>> all information, just that she didn’t have any personality.
>>>>>
>>>>> I might be willing to grant you the Rei thing – there are some points
>>>>> in the series where she does seem to be getting a personality. I’d say 
>>>>> that
>>>>> the wipes/resets of her are part of the reason she qualifies though. While
>>>>> the others may start out with no personality, Rei is continually
>>>>> reset/reborn.
>>>>>
>>>>> What links them for me is mainly the nature in which they acquire
>>>>> personality – through almost exclusive interaction with a single male on
>>>>> whom they form an attachment. Anyways, while examples may differ, you’ll
>>>>> grant this is not a trope with which you are unfamiliar, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> For me the idea behind the character is lousy.
>>>>>
>>>>>  *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
>>>>> *Sent:* 06 February 2015 12:54 PM
>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>
>>>>>  Cant agree with that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rei's lack of showing emotion is not the same as lacking
>>>>> personality/soul.  I dont think her personality changes much during the
>>>>> show, it just becomes apparent later once she actually gets to interacts
>>>>> with people besides Gendo.
>>>>> Her motivations change and they start changing fairly early(before ep
>>>>> 8) in the show...  it doesnt help that she essentially gets
>>>>> killed/replaced/reset during the show :P
>>>>>
>>>>> But what she does makes perfect sense considering her personality and
>>>>> circumstances.
>>>>>
>>>>> Her personality is a bit more pronounced in the new movies.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I dunno about alisa.  From what I can remember of the game
>>>>> storie/cutscenes and movie she seems to have personality just fine and her
>>>>> own motivations.  Her essentially getting "mind controlled" for certain
>>>>> periods of time doesnt detract from what she otherwise does willingly.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They are both independent characters imo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Only blank slate here is Chi.  Its how she was written and she
>>>>> essentially starts out as a empty canvas.
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>  From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 09:48:25 +0000
>>>>>  Rei  is a clone created with no soul and no personality. She may be
>>>>> flesh and blood, but there is no difference between her and a robot.
>>>>> All of them have personalities in the end, but they don’t start with
>>>>> them.
>>>>> Also, by the end of Eva, Rei’s hopes and dreams all that junk still
>>>>> don’t amount to more than what’s been given to her (i.e. Gendo’s plan or
>>>>> Shinji’s decision). Chi is purely a product of Hideki. Alisa is just doing
>>>>> what Lars wants, until she gets the Jin wipe.
>>>>> None of them exist as independent characters. Sometimes characters in
>>>>> the stories will assume human motivations or such things, but usually
>>>>> they’re just lying to themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alisa is a different story in her endings – I mean she seems to be
>>>>> attending school and actually not just sitting in Lars’ broom closet
>>>>> waiting for him to get home.
>>>>>
>>>>>  *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
>>>>> *Sent:* 06 February 2015 11:40 AM
>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>
>>>>>  Eh...
>>>>>
>>>>> I dont really see the connections that binds those 3.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rei & Chi the "emotionless" aspect.
>>>>> Chi & Alisa are both "young" naive robots.
>>>>> I think Rei and Alisa have got personalities tho but not really Chi.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only one of the chars who really fits the trope I think you are
>>>>> describing would be Chi imo
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>  From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 09:12:44 +0000
>>>>>  Ugh. I have a dislike for the trope. She’s the same as Rei in Eva,
>>>>> or Chi in Chobits. Female characters with no personality. I understand why
>>>>> they’re popular – they can in no way ever be threatening or take any
>>>>> decisions which will negatively impact the people in their lives. They can
>>>>> have no personality flaws because all they will ever have learned comes
>>>>> from the (usually pathetic) main character on whom they are dependent. 
>>>>> It’s
>>>>> a pretty insulting phenomenon.
>>>>> Effectively they’re blow-up dolls who can also clean the house and do
>>>>> laundry. Character design? What a joke.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Di Lhong
>>>>> *Sent:* 06 February 2015 10:58 AM
>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>
>>>>>  Alisa is still there -_-"
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  As cheerful as I am to see Paul and King there, what happened to
>>>>> Nina? Or for that matter, Lei, the Capos, Bob, Changs, Zafina… Happy that
>>>>> Kuma, the ‘roos and Alisa are gone. Not sure I like that they’ve been
>>>>> replaced by a Quincy and neko-chan.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully some more of the mainstays make it back. I can’t believe
>>>>> that they’ll release a Tekken without Nina or Yoshi. They’ve made every
>>>>> previous incarnation.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Manase Zote
>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2015 7:43 PM
>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>
>>>>> 13 days?
>>>>> Not possible. Lol
>>>>>  On 5 Feb 2015 19:29, "Di Lhong" <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  13 days and counting...Namco better get their shit together.
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Same here.
>>>>>
>>>>>  The game itself looks good imo.
>>>>>
>>>>>  But that doest help me till they add my characters.
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>  Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 18:33:32 +0200
>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>  Characters aside I like the look of T7 :)
>>>>>
>>>>>  On 5 February 2015 at 18:08, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll rather wait until TxSF is released. Even though they haven't
>>>>> released any game play footage, l doubt it'll be as bad as T7.
>>>>>  On 5 Feb 2015 18:03, "Stephen Scheidel" <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  I just noticed how stupid Bryan looks in his picture.
>>>>>  How does the Tekken team always let these goofy ass smiles find
>>>>> their way into the game.
>>>>>
>>>>>  On 5 February 2015 at 18:00, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Lee is the most important character in Tekken and I deserve
>>>>> everything I want.
>>>>>  Fuck Tekken right now.
>>>>>
>>>>>  On 5 February 2015 at 17:28, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Luckily I like multiple GG characters...  including a new addition.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tekkens new additions suck ass.
>>>>> And none of my interested characters are there...   Yoshi or Jack
>>>>> would have been acceptable if Lei was absent.
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>  From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 15:13:50 +0000
>>>>>  Well GG released without your main as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> …although he may still be released and I don’t know about Tekken
>>>>> adding lots more characters to come…
>>>>> Maybe they’re keeping Lei as a surprise…
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2015 3:40 PM
>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>
>>>>>  Official Tekken 7  Website is online
>>>>>
>>>>> With a character list...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk7ac/character/
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently giving zero fucks about this game
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>  Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 03:50:30 -0800
>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> From: greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Serious?? Sounds cool
>>>>>  On Feb 5, 2015 1:29 PM, "Wynand-Ben" <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  You can test it with multiple displays and high speed camera.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Ive seen dedicated hardware that tests lag as well.  Little box with
>>>>> senson and hdmi cable.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Plug into TV.
>>>>>  Point at the screen.
>>>>>  Presson button.
>>>>>  And it measures the lag.
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>  Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 03:26:48 -0800
>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> From: greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Hardware like???
>>>>>  On Feb 5, 2015 1:20 PM, "Wynand-Ben" <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Cant just use software program to test input lag.
>>>>>
>>>>>  You need the correct hardware to do proper tests.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Other than that you just have to "feel it out"
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>  Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 03:15:36 -0800
>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> From: greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> You have confused me with a really difficult question,, I guess I use
>>>>> TEKKEN and SF,, its really good compared to the last screen I had to play
>>>>> on,, it was a HD TV with about 4 - 5 frames of lag, horrible
>>>>>  On Feb 5, 2015 1:13 PM, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Which one do you play and do combos on Rich, the program/app for
>>>>> testing lag or fighting games?
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:02 PM, richard moorcroft <
>>>>> greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't there a program that you can use to test input lag?? There
>>>>> should be something like this
>>>>>   On Feb 5, 2015 12:53 PM, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Links(just frames), juggles, rekka type moves, movement are all
>>>>> vital when testing lag :)
>>>>>  Good choices there SAP.
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Tekken, Mahvel, SF and VF
>>>>>   On 5 Feb 2015 12:28, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Out of interest, which games did you use for testing, Sap?
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Manase Zote
>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2015 12:27 PM
>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>
>>>>>  This is the best method, old school but it works. lol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Or get a Hisense. Haven't experienced any lag issues with mine. Tested
>>>>> it in - store with several games.
>>>>>   On 5 Feb 2015 12:15, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Really good monitors are stupidly expensive. Find some nice HD tv
>>>>> that doesn’t have too much random extra processing going on – like the old
>>>>> Bravias. Get one of those and live with the 1-2f lag. It doesn’t kill the
>>>>> game or anything. You’ve played on my TV. While it does have a couple
>>>>> frames lag more than Paas’ screen, it’s not a problem and you adjust very
>>>>> quickly.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong
>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2015 12:13 PM
>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>
>>>>>  The price is a bit harsh...
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Meh... at this price you're better off importing a known lag-free
>>>>> monitor.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.uprice.co.za/p/AOC-G2460PQU-24-inch-Gaming-Monitor/41408280/
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   The AOC's do lag.  From 1f to 5f depending on the model.  The
>>>>> non-3D version is better value for money.
>>>>>  If you want to go with AOC, get 24 inch"G" model.  TomsHardware says
>>>>> it has about 1f of input lag.  It uses a Twisted Nematic panel (TN).
>>>>>
>>>>> http://us.aoc.com/monitor_displays/g2460pqu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:00 AM, lindsey kiviets <
>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  that's my monitor and I have no lag.
>>>>>
>>>>> best picture, however the cake is a lie.
>>>>>
>>>>> the bezel of the monitor is not as thin as in the picture.
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>  From: paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 06:21:10 +0000
>>>>>
>>>>>  IPS monitor?
>>>>>
>>>>> Im sure the lag is not in my head now.  I dont think you get IPS
>>>>> "gaming" monitors.
>>>>>
>>>>> IPS monitors give better colours and viewing angles but anything
>>>>> gaming/performance/response related will be a TN panel.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would recommend going for a non IPS monitor
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>  Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 07:45:34 +0200
>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Nope, this one
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.kalahari.com/Technology/AOC-23-D2367PH-IPS-3D-Monitor_p_48293402
>>>>>  On 4 Feb 2015 17:12, "Di Lhong" <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Is this the AOC you're talking about nic?
>>>>>  http://www.wootware.co.za/aoc-e2370sd-23-1920x1080-led-monitor.html
>>>>>
>>>>>  Anyone have any experience with LG mp55hq?
>>>>>  http://www.wootware.co.za/lg-23mp55hq-23-ips.html
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
>>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Pretty good, 3k.
>>>>>   On 4 Feb 2015 15:14, "Di Lhong" <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  How are the AOC screens in terms of lag? how much are they? need to
>>>>> get a screen for my pc...
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  *LOL*
>>>>>  Cool bro.
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:54 PM, euraima tobias <euraima@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Np mz, you know where to find me whoever feels like pressing buttons.
>>>>>   On 04 Feb 2015 2:32 PM, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  He is going out tonight so he won't attend and that includes me too
>>>>> :(
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:23 PM, euraima tobias <euraima@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm easy just let me know. What about Sap?
>>>>>   On 04 Feb 2015 1:37 PM, "sameegh jardine" <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Haha, nah it's no worries bro. Next time.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Actually about tonight, is it only Khan, Nic and I? (I know Salie is
>>>>> a maybe)
>>>>>
>>>>>  Should we postpone to next week?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  :(
>>>>>
>>>>> Sadly I have obligations that could not get out of in Paarl this
>>>>> evening
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>  Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 13:25:06 +0200
>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> From: sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>  Paas plz.
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Btw im sadly not going to be able to make it to tonights session
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>  Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 13:06:04 +0200
>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> From: sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>  Zidane has been beasting with that Leo on Spooky's stream for a
>>>>> while now. Mynus is probably the best Ino player in the states (he usually
>>>>> gets bopped by Zidane though).
>>>>>
>>>>>  Playing against Faust seems frustrating, his neutral game is really
>>>>> solid.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Ah Apex.
>>>>>
>>>>> I watched the that on stream.
>>>>>
>>>>> Was good.  Leo & Ino in top 3...  Was pretty hype when Leo reset
>>>>> against Faust in Grand finals.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fuck the meteors tho :P
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>  Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:31:29 +0200
>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> I think Manase meant Apex?
>>>>>  On 4 Feb 2015 11:30, "Di Lhong" <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  They need to make a complete version of Soul Calibur 5! with all the
>>>>> original cast...Alpha Pat can't replace Setsuka!
>>>>>
>>>>>  PAX is this March i think. Boston?
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Its hard for me...
>>>>>
>>>>> 2D has GG
>>>>> 3D has Sour Kariba
>>>>>
>>>>> What/where was the Pax tourney?  Was stuff recorded/streamed?
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>  Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:04:06 +0200
>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> From: bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>  2D fighters all the way!!!
>>>>>  You lost me Nick when you mentioned MK...
>>>>>  Enough about the doomed 3D fighting game genre and more GG XRD
>>>>> please.
>>>>>  I see at PAX there were no strong Sol players instead lots of tier
>>>>> whoring...
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
>>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you were stuck on an island somewhere, would you choose to have
>>>>> current 2d plane fighting games with you, or current 3d plane games with
>>>>> you.
>>>>> I know where I stand, I'll miss Jojo's ASB tho.
>>>>> As a fighting game fan, I think it's a decline in the 3d interest.  I
>>>>> believe the reason is that the characters are simply too similar.  The 3d
>>>>> movement is the same for most.  The movesets too similar.
>>>>> It's something I disliked about MK as well... to some extent anyway.
>>>>>   On 4 Feb 2015 09:41, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  VF5 – people realise it is boring and don’t play it much
>>>>> T6:BR – Tekken scene declines.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, it’s sneaky how they follow the VF trends.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Williams
>>>>> *Sent:* 04 February 2015 8:55 AM
>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>
>>>>> It was 'borrowed' from Virtua Fighter.
>>>>> You can trace these things back to VF2 days.
>>>>> VF2 - Sega adds characters with 3D axis movement
>>>>> T2 - Namco follows suit
>>>>> VF3 - Sega adds undulating stages and a new 'evade' mechanic
>>>>> (Essentially a sidestep button but multi-purpose). Some stages are also
>>>>> enclosed (have walls).
>>>>> T3 - Namco also introduces a sidestep mechanic. The walls and
>>>>> undulating stages first make an appearance in T4.
>>>>> VF5 - Sega introduces a B! mechanic.
>>>>> T6 - Namco introduces a B! mechanic.
>>>>> If you follow the chronology of these releases, you will see that
>>>>> Namco would typically release a new Tekken a year (sometimes more) or so
>>>>> after the release of a new Virtua Fighter.
>>>>>  On 4 Feb 2015 08:38, "richard moorcroft" <greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Who's mechanic then?? Some other fighter??
>>>>>  On Feb 4, 2015 8:30 AM, "Ryan Williams" <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote: Because it was never their mechanic to begin with. On 4 Feb 2015
>>>>> 07:52, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Dear Namco, How can
>>>>> you not get the main system mechanic right? Oh I forgot it's all about 
>>>>> them
>>>>> juggles ;) From a few matches I saw Bryan is another victim of this system
>>>>> change, Mr Naps got owned in a Japanese tournament because of weak combos.
>>>>> On 3 Feb 2015 17:14, "Di Lhong" <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: This is
>>>>> according to current version. Not sure how he'll end up though. But he's
>>>>> one of the few characters who doesn't suffer from not having B!   On Tue,
>>>>> Feb 3, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Sweet. He's been threatening to
>>>>> move out the mid-tiers for a while now. Sent from my Windows Phone
>>>>> ________________________________ From: Di Lhong<mailto:
>>>>> geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎03 16:28 To:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: DRE:
>>>>> CTS community mail Good news for Paul in T7. JDCR and Knee said he's top
>>>>> tier. A lot of the characters got indirect nerf from removing B!... Law is
>>>>> bottom tier. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>> wrote: How will tricking Di into getting an xbone get you more friends?
>>>>> Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: lindsey
>>>>> kiviets<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>> Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎03 16:07 To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail It was
>>>>> worth a try. :( i hav no friends ________________________________ Date:
>>>>> Tue, 3 Feb 2015 16:02:18 +0200 Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail From:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> LB plz. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:57
>>>>> PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: Get a xbone. There a dude on the
>>>>> forum selling one for 4800 with 2 games ________________________________
>>>>> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:48:20 +0200 Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>> To:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Anyone know the
>>>>> price of a PS3 console nowadays? i think it's time for me to invest in one
>>>>> lolz On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Wynand-Ben <
>>>>> paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: Ky >
>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail >
>>>>> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 13:34:05 +0000 > > I have retreated to the mountains
>>>>> to improve my Kai game. > > Sent from my Windows Phone >
>>>>> ________________________________ > From: sameegh jardine<mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>> > Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎03 14:57 > To:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> > Subject: Re:
>>>>> DRE: CTS community mail > > Stu plz. > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:33 PM,
>>>>> Donaldson, Alasdair <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> ><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote: > -1 for a session. > > Sent
>>>>> from my Windows Phone > ________________________________ > From: Nicholas
>>>>> Robertson-Muir<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> ><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>>>> > Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎03 14:30 > To:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>> > Subject: Re:
>>>>> DRE: CTS community mail > > > +1 for session. > > On 3 Feb 2015 14:24,
>>>>> "Sameegh Jardine" <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> ><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote: > +1 if there's a session > >
>>>>> On 03 Feb 2015, at 2:12 PM, euraima tobias <euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> euraima@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> euraima@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> ><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote: > > >
>>>>> Are we sessioning tomorrow? Let me know who's keen? > > On 03 Feb 2015 
>>>>> 1:55
>>>>> PM, "sameegh jardine" <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> ><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote: > lol, this
>>>>> makes me remember the time you had an argument with the guy at Wonderland
>>>>> around the buttons/sticks they use as opposed to the Japanese brands > > 
>>>>> On
>>>>> Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote: > And charge +- R4000 for that
>>>>> shit. > Are they fucking mad !!!?? > > > > Rant over > back to work > > On
>>>>> 3 February 2015 at 13:32, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote: > It actually makes me fucking
>>>>> furious that these shit eating cock ring coasters think they can slap a 
>>>>> few
>>>>> rands worth of antiquated electronics and a pirated bootleg ass broken PCB
>>>>> in to some cheap chip board and try call it a retro arcade cabinet. > Shit
>>>>> is fake first of all and secondly there is a huge difference between retro
>>>>> and plain old broken shit. > > > > On 3 February 2015 at 13:16, Stephen
>>>>> Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> ><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> ><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> ><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> ><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>
>>>>> wrote: > I could never buy such poor cabs. > They are overpriced and
>>>>> terribly made with wrong everything. > The thing that pisses me off is 
>>>>> that
>>>>> these fucking vultures are ripping people off > that don't know better. > 
>>>>> >
>>>>> These are not game koppe > fuck them. > > On 3 February 2015 at 11:30,
>>>>> Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
>>>>> bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> ><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
>>>>> bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote: > > Lol > The controls need an
>>>>> overhaul since sanwa/seimatsu parts are not only better but also different
>>>>> from our local ones which suck ass. > > On 3 Feb 2015 10:33, "lindsey
>>>>> kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>>
>>>>>
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