RE: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 18:10:40 +0200

Who plays that game LB?
On 6 Feb 2015 18:00, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Tekken is racist. Hello der, its ur friendly neighborhood anime salesman.
> Today we hav a special on persona ultimax suplex hold for R400. Anyone?
> Whens yatagarsu?
>
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> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 16:59:50 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/s480x480/10959739_771433716288136_1558838750655320253_n.jpg?oh=6abb6d87adef73670cccd081eb483608&oe=55493461&__gda__=1432108113_7a139f8f2bdf142d0c0c9a97e46b69de
>
> Brutality confirmed?
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> I dont think they are all that different in the movies (Except of course
> for the last one that completely went its own course).
> They are the same but most of their inner or subtle emotions are shown to
> the audience through behavior instead hinted at or through internal
> monologues and whatnot.
>
> And for the trope I also came up with mostly robot/synthetic girls...  but
> most of them had personality where rather "eccentric" when they
> occasionally not chilled.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 14:15:48 +0000
>
>  The movies are a different beast all together. Most of the characters a
> changed in that one. It’s not like Asuka from the series is the same as the
> movies either.
>
> Hmmm. Okay, I’d forgotten about Rei ignoring Gendo’s orders – or when she
> gets infected. Yeah, by then she has developed an independent personality.
>
> Mostly the trope seems to be for the robot/synthetic girl thing. Now that
> I think about it, I’m also having trouble remembering clear examples.
> That’s also because I can’t remember details from a lot of shows.
>
>  *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
> *Sent:* 06 February 2015 3:42 PM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>  Cant remember all details clearly lol... used know my eva stuff by heart
> some years ago.
> You could probably describe Rei as emotionless, unhappy/depressed with low
> self worth(Sees herself as a replaceable tool).
>
> For the show she essentially "likes" not feeling miserable :P
> Due her low self worth midset the interaction with other humans is
> important to her.  Also why her early "responses" are related to Gendo
> and/or his glasses.
> Early on its only Gendo but that changes after the Shinji joins and later
> Asuka etc.
>
> The lack of her acting out in normal circumstances makes the few times she
> does more important.  Smiling/Laughing when talking to Gendo, Hitting
> shinji, her self sacrifice near the end and defying Gendo. (Im sure there
> are more but I havent watched the original in ages).
>
> In the beginning it looks like she would simply just follow her order
> because they are orders later on she makes her decisions herself.
>
> All of this is much less subtle and clear in the first 2 Rebuild movies.
>
> Cant remember the Alisa stuff clearly :/
>
> Regarding the "trope" in general.  I thought that I was familiar with the
> trope but now Im struggling to think of characters who can be described by
> it.
>  ------------------------------
>  From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 12:35:03 +0000
>  Hmmm. Not sure if we’ll agree on Rei. What exactly do you recall about
> her personality? Did she have any likes or dislikes? Did she have any real
> reason for doing anything, I mean other than because Gendo asked her? I
> suppose you could consider being subservient a personality type. What
> exactly were her defining characteristics – and I don’t mean physical.
>
> Does Alisa wake up with a personality? I don’t remember the storyline well
> enough, so I could easily be wrong, but I don’t recall her being anything
> but a blank slate when she woke up. I don’t mean that she lacked all
> information, just that she didn’t have any personality.
>
> I might be willing to grant you the Rei thing – there are some points in
> the series where she does seem to be getting a personality. I’d say that
> the wipes/resets of her are part of the reason she qualifies though. While
> the others may start out with no personality, Rei is continually
> reset/reborn.
>
> What links them for me is mainly the nature in which they acquire
> personality – through almost exclusive interaction with a single male on
> whom they form an attachment. Anyways, while examples may differ, you’ll
> grant this is not a trope with which you are unfamiliar, right?
>
> For me the idea behind the character is lousy.
>
>  *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
> *Sent:* 06 February 2015 12:54 PM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>  Cant agree with that.
>
> Rei's lack of showing emotion is not the same as lacking
> personality/soul.  I dont think her personality changes much during the
> show, it just becomes apparent later once she actually gets to interacts
> with people besides Gendo.
> Her motivations change and they start changing fairly early(before ep 8)
> in the show...  it doesnt help that she essentially gets
> killed/replaced/reset during the show :P
>
> But what she does makes perfect sense considering her personality and
> circumstances.
>
> Her personality is a bit more pronounced in the new movies.
>
>
> I dunno about alisa.  From what I can remember of the game
> storie/cutscenes and movie she seems to have personality just fine and her
> own motivations.  Her essentially getting "mind controlled" for certain
> periods of time doesnt detract from what she otherwise does willingly.
>
>
> They are both independent characters imo
>
>
>
> Only blank slate here is Chi.  Its how she was written and she essentially
> starts out as a empty canvas.
>  ------------------------------
>  From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 09:48:25 +0000
>  Rei  is a clone created with no soul and no personality. She may be
> flesh and blood, but there is no difference between her and a robot.
> All of them have personalities in the end, but they don’t start with them.
> Also, by the end of Eva, Rei’s hopes and dreams all that junk still don’t
> amount to more than what’s been given to her (i.e. Gendo’s plan or Shinji’s
> decision). Chi is purely a product of Hideki. Alisa is just doing what Lars
> wants, until she gets the Jin wipe.
> None of them exist as independent characters. Sometimes characters in the
> stories will assume human motivations or such things, but usually they’re
> just lying to themselves.
>
> Alisa is a different story in her endings – I mean she seems to be
> attending school and actually not just sitting in Lars’ broom closet
> waiting for him to get home.
>
>  *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
> *Sent:* 06 February 2015 11:40 AM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>  Eh...
>
> I dont really see the connections that binds those 3.
>
> Rei & Chi the "emotionless" aspect.
> Chi & Alisa are both "young" naive robots.
> I think Rei and Alisa have got personalities tho but not really Chi.
>
> Only one of the chars who really fits the trope I think you are describing
> would be Chi imo
>  ------------------------------
>  From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 09:12:44 +0000
>  Ugh. I have a dislike for the trope. She’s the same as Rei in Eva, or
> Chi in Chobits. Female characters with no personality. I understand why
> they’re popular – they can in no way ever be threatening or take any
> decisions which will negatively impact the people in their lives. They can
> have no personality flaws because all they will ever have learned comes
> from the (usually pathetic) main character on whom they are dependent. It’s
> a pretty insulting phenomenon.
> Effectively they’re blow-up dolls who can also clean the house and do
> laundry. Character design? What a joke.
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong
> *Sent:* 06 February 2015 10:58 AM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>  Alisa is still there -_-"
>
>  On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  As cheerful as I am to see Paul and King there, what happened to Nina?
> Or for that matter, Lei, the Capos, Bob, Changs, Zafina… Happy that Kuma,
> the ‘roos and Alisa are gone. Not sure I like that they’ve been replaced by
> a Quincy and neko-chan.
>
> Hopefully some more of the mainstays make it back. I can’t believe that
> they’ll release a Tekken without Nina or Yoshi. They’ve made every previous
> incarnation.
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Manase Zote
> *Sent:* 05 February 2015 7:43 PM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>
> 13 days?
> Not possible. Lol
>  On 5 Feb 2015 19:29, "Di Lhong" <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  13 days and counting...Namco better get their shit together.
>
>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>  Same here.
>
>  The game itself looks good imo.
>
>  But that doest help me till they add my characters.
>  ------------------------------
>  Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 18:33:32 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Characters aside I like the look of T7 :)
>
>  On 5 February 2015 at 18:08, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I'll rather wait until TxSF is released. Even though they haven't released
> any game play footage, l doubt it'll be as bad as T7.
>  On 5 Feb 2015 18:03, "Stephen Scheidel" <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  I just noticed how stupid Bryan looks in his picture.
>  How does the Tekken team always let these goofy ass smiles find their
> way into the game.
>
>  On 5 February 2015 at 18:00, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>  Lee is the most important character in Tekken and I deserve everything I
> want.
>  Fuck Tekken right now.
>
>  On 5 February 2015 at 17:28, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  Luckily I like multiple GG characters...  including a new addition.
>
>
> Tekkens new additions suck ass.
> And none of my interested characters are there...   Yoshi or Jack would
> have been acceptable if Lei was absent.
>  ------------------------------
>  From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 15:13:50 +0000
>  Well GG released without your main as well.
>
> …although he may still be released and I don’t know about Tekken adding
> lots more characters to come…
> Maybe they’re keeping Lei as a surprise…
>
>
>  *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
> *Sent:* 05 February 2015 3:40 PM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>  Official Tekken 7  Website is online
>
> With a character list...
>
> http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk7ac/character/
>
> Currently giving zero fucks about this game
>  ------------------------------
>  Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 03:50:30 -0800
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Serious?? Sounds cool
>  On Feb 5, 2015 1:29 PM, "Wynand-Ben" <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  You can test it with multiple displays and high speed camera.
>
>  Ive seen dedicated hardware that tests lag as well.  Little box with
> senson and hdmi cable.
>
>  Plug into TV.
>  Point at the screen.
>  Presson button.
>  And it measures the lag.
>  ------------------------------
>  Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 03:26:48 -0800
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Hardware like???
>  On Feb 5, 2015 1:20 PM, "Wynand-Ben" <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  Cant just use software program to test input lag.
>
>  You need the correct hardware to do proper tests.
>
>
>  Other than that you just have to "feel it out"
>  ------------------------------
>  Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 03:15:36 -0800
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> You have confused me with a really difficult question,, I guess I use
> TEKKEN and SF,, its really good compared to the last screen I had to play
> on,, it was a HD TV with about 4 - 5 frames of lag, horrible
>  On Feb 5, 2015 1:13 PM, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  Which one do you play and do combos on Rich, the program/app for testing
> lag or fighting games?
>
>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:02 PM, richard moorcroft <
> greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Isn't there a program that you can use to test input lag?? There should be
> something like this
>   On Feb 5, 2015 12:53 PM, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  Links(just frames), juggles, rekka type moves, movement are all vital
> when testing lag :)
>  Good choices there SAP.
>
>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> Tekken, Mahvel, SF and VF
>   On 5 Feb 2015 12:28, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  Out of interest, which games did you use for testing, Sap?
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Manase Zote
> *Sent:* 05 February 2015 12:27 PM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>  This is the best method, old school but it works. lol
>
>
>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> Or get a Hisense. Haven't experienced any lag issues with mine. Tested it
> in - store with several games.
>   On 5 Feb 2015 12:15, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  Really good monitors are stupidly expensive. Find some nice HD tv that
> doesn’t have too much random extra processing going on – like the old
> Bravias. Get one of those and live with the 1-2f lag. It doesn’t kill the
> game or anything. You’ve played on my TV. While it does have a couple
> frames lag more than Paas’ screen, it’s not a problem and you adjust very
> quickly.
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong
> *Sent:* 05 February 2015 12:13 PM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>  The price is a bit harsh...
>
>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  Meh... at this price you're better off importing a known lag-free
> monitor.
>
> http://www.uprice.co.za/p/AOC-G2460PQU-24-inch-Gaming-Monitor/41408280/
>
>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>   The AOC's do lag.  From 1f to 5f depending on the model.  The non-3D
> version is better value for money.
>  If you want to go with AOC, get 24 inch"G" model.  TomsHardware says it
> has about 1f of input lag.  It uses a Twisted Nematic panel (TN).
>
> http://us.aoc.com/monitor_displays/g2460pqu
>
>
>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:00 AM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>
>  that's my monitor and I have no lag.
>
> best picture, however the cake is a lie.
>
> the bezel of the monitor is not as thin as in the picture.
>  ------------------------------
>  From: paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 06:21:10 +0000
>
>  IPS monitor?
>
> Im sure the lag is not in my head now.  I dont think you get IPS "gaming"
> monitors.
>
> IPS monitors give better colours and viewing angles but anything
> gaming/performance/response related will be a TN panel.
>
> I would recommend going for a non IPS monitor
>  ------------------------------
>  Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 07:45:34 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Nope, this one
> http://www.kalahari.com/Technology/AOC-23-D2367PH-IPS-3D-Monitor_p_48293402
>  On 4 Feb 2015 17:12, "Di Lhong" <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  Is this the AOC you're talking about nic?
>  http://www.wootware.co.za/aoc-e2370sd-23-1920x1080-led-monitor.html
>
>  Anyone have any experience with LG mp55hq?
>  http://www.wootware.co.za/lg-23mp55hq-23-ips.html
>
>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Pretty good, 3k.
>   On 4 Feb 2015 15:14, "Di Lhong" <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  How are the AOC screens in terms of lag? how much are they? need to get
> a screen for my pc...
>
>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  *LOL*
>  Cool bro.
>
>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:54 PM, euraima tobias <euraima@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Np mz, you know where to find me whoever feels like pressing buttons.
>   On 04 Feb 2015 2:32 PM, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  He is going out tonight so he won't attend and that includes me too :(
>
>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:23 PM, euraima tobias <euraima@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I'm easy just let me know. What about Sap?
>   On 04 Feb 2015 1:37 PM, "sameegh jardine" <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  Haha, nah it's no worries bro. Next time.
>
>  Actually about tonight, is it only Khan, Nic and I? (I know Salie is a
> maybe)
>
>  Should we postpone to next week?
>
>
>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>  :(
>
> Sadly I have obligations that could not get out of in Paarl this evening
>  ------------------------------
>  Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 13:25:06 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>  Paas plz.
>
>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>  Btw im sadly not going to be able to make it to tonights session
>  ------------------------------
>  Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 13:06:04 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>  Zidane has been beasting with that Leo on Spooky's stream for a while
> now. Mynus is probably the best Ino player in the states (he usually gets
> bopped by Zidane though).
>
>  Playing against Faust seems frustrating, his neutral game is really
> solid.
>
>
>
>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>  Ah Apex.
>
> I watched the that on stream.
>
> Was good.  Leo & Ino in top 3...  Was pretty hype when Leo reset against
> Faust in Grand finals.
>
> Fuck the meteors tho :P
>  ------------------------------
>  Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:31:29 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> I think Manase meant Apex?
>  On 4 Feb 2015 11:30, "Di Lhong" <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  They need to make a complete version of Soul Calibur 5! with all the
> original cast...Alpha Pat can't replace Setsuka!
>
>  PAX is this March i think. Boston?
>
>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>  Its hard for me...
>
> 2D has GG
> 3D has Sour Kariba
>
> What/where was the Pax tourney?  Was stuff recorded/streamed?
>  ------------------------------
>  Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:04:06 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>  2D fighters all the way!!!
>  You lost me Nick when you mentioned MK...
>  Enough about the doomed 3D fighting game genre and more GG XRD please.
>  I see at PAX there were no strong Sol players instead lots of tier
> whoring...
>
>  On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> If you were stuck on an island somewhere, would you choose to have current
> 2d plane fighting games with you, or current 3d plane games with you.
> I know where I stand, I'll miss Jojo's ASB tho.
> As a fighting game fan, I think it's a decline in the 3d interest.  I
> believe the reason is that the characters are simply too similar.  The 3d
> movement is the same for most.  The movesets too similar.
> It's something I disliked about MK as well... to some extent anyway.
>   On 4 Feb 2015 09:41, "Donaldson, Alasdair" <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  VF5 – people realise it is boring and don’t play it much
> T6:BR – Tekken scene declines.
>
> Yeah, it’s sneaky how they follow the VF trends.
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Ryan Williams
> *Sent:* 04 February 2015 8:55 AM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>
> It was 'borrowed' from Virtua Fighter.
> You can trace these things back to VF2 days.
> VF2 - Sega adds characters with 3D axis movement
> T2 - Namco follows suit
> VF3 - Sega adds undulating stages and a new 'evade' mechanic (Essentially
> a sidestep button but multi-purpose). Some stages are also enclosed (have
> walls).
> T3 - Namco also introduces a sidestep mechanic. The walls and undulating
> stages first make an appearance in T4.
> VF5 - Sega introduces a B! mechanic.
> T6 - Namco introduces a B! mechanic.
> If you follow the chronology of these releases, you will see that Namco
> would typically release a new Tekken a year (sometimes more) or so after
> the release of a new Virtua Fighter.
>  On 4 Feb 2015 08:38, "richard moorcroft" <greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> Who's mechanic then?? Some other fighter??
>  On Feb 4, 2015 8:30 AM, "Ryan Williams" <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Because it was never their mechanic to begin with.
>  On 4 Feb 2015 07:52, "Manase Zote" <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Dear Namco,
> How can you not get the main system mechanic right?
> Oh I forgot it's all about them juggles ;)
> From a few matches I saw Bryan is another victim of this system change, Mr
> Naps got owned in a Japanese tournament because of weak combos.
>  On 3 Feb 2015 17:14, "Di Lhong" <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  This is according to current version. Not sure how he'll end up though.
> But he's one of the few characters who doesn't suffer from not having B!
>
>  On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Sweet. He's been threatening to move out the mid-tiers for a while now.
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ________________________________
> From: Di Lhong<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎03 16:28
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>
> Good news for Paul in T7. JDCR and Knee said he's top tier. A lot of the
> characters got indirect nerf from removing B!...
>
> Law is bottom tier.
>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> wrote:
> How will tricking Di into getting an xbone get you more friends?
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ________________________________
> From: lindsey kiviets<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎03 16:07
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>
> It was worth a try. :( i hav no friends
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 16:02:18 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> LB plz.
>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:57 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> Get a xbone. There a dude on the forum selling one for 4800 with 2 games
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:48:20 +0200
> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> From: geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
> geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>>
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>
>
> Anyone know the price of a PS3 console nowadays? i think it's time for me
> to invest in one lolz
>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> Ky
>
> > From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> ><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 13:34:05 +0000
>
> >
> > I have retreated to the mountains to improve my Kai game.
> >
> > Sent from my Windows Phone
> > ________________________________
> > From: sameegh jardine<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
> ><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>>
> > Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎03 14:57
> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
> > Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> >
> > Stu plz.
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> ><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> wrote:
> > -1 for a session.
> >
> > Sent from my Windows Phone
> > ________________________________
> > From: Nicholas Robertson-Muir<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
> >><mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎03 14:30
> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:
> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>><mailto:
> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:
> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> > Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
> >
> >
> > +1 for session.
> >
> > On 3 Feb 2015 14:24, "Sameegh Jardine" <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
> >><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
> ><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
> > +1 if there's a session
> >
> > On 03 Feb 2015, at 2:12 PM, euraima tobias <euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> euraima@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx
> >><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
> euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> euraima@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx
> ><mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:euraima@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Are we sessioning tomorrow? Let me know who's keen?
> >
> > On 03 Feb 2015 1:55 PM, "sameegh jardine" <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
> >><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx
> ><mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
> > lol, this makes me remember the time you had an argument with the guy at
> Wonderland around the buttons/sticks they use as opposed to the Japanese
> brands
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
> > And charge +- R4000 for that shit.
> > Are they fucking mad !!!??
> >
> >
> >
> > Rant over
> > back to work
> >
> > On 3 February 2015 at 13:32, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
> > It actually makes me fucking furious that these shit eating cock ring
> coasters think they can slap a few rands worth of antiquated electronics
> and a pirated bootleg ass broken PCB in to some cheap chip board and try
> call it a retro arcade cabinet.
> > Shit is fake first of all and secondly there is a huge difference
> between retro and plain old broken shit.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3 February 2015 at 13:16, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
> > I could never buy such poor cabs.
> > They are overpriced and terribly made with wrong everything.
> > The thing that pisses me off is that these fucking vultures are ripping
> people off
> > that don't know better.
> >
> > These are not game koppe
> > fuck them.
> >
> > On 3 February 2015 at 11:30, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
> >><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:
> bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>>><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
> bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
> ><mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
> >
> > Lol
> > The controls need an overhaul since sanwa/seimatsu parts are not only
> better but also different from our local ones which suck ass.
> >
> > On 3 Feb 2015 10:33, "lindsey kiviets" <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>
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