Re: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 15:37:42 +0200

*LOL*
It's okay bra we are just debating/chatting that's all :D

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Oh
> I was just copy pasting from wiki.
> I don't have any fighting history knowledge.
>
> On 6 February 2015 at 15:34, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Nope they don't Paul does Judo and it's not American.
>> Capoeira is African by the way Steve.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Di Lhong <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Do they really need to rep their fighting style from the country they're
>>> from? because look at Changs, Lee, Leo, etc.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> What kind of unique traditional African fighting styles are there ?
>>>> I remember seeing some type of wrestling dudes do in one of the central
>>>> countries.
>>>> I think a big black grappler dude would be cool ~ he could be a proper
>>>> rival to Marduk
>>>>
>>>> Okay I've answered my question with some googling.
>>>> A Dambe fighter would be sick ~
>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2759363/Fight-Club-Nigerian-style-The-brutal-West-African-martial-arts-tradition-country-s-culture-centuries.html
>>>>
>>>> "Africa
>>>> Styles of stickfighting
>>>>
>>>> Istunka (Somalia)
>>>> Nguni Stick Fighting (South Africa)
>>>> Nuba fighting (Sudan)
>>>> Surma stickfighting (Ethiopia)
>>>> Tahtib (Ancient Egypt)
>>>>
>>>> Folk wrestling
>>>>
>>>> Laamb Wrestling (Senegal)
>>>> Evala wrestling (Togo)
>>>>
>>>> Bare knuckle boxing
>>>>
>>>> Dambe (Nigeria)
>>>> Musangwe (South Africa)
>>>> Moraingy (Madagascar)
>>>>
>>>> Others
>>>>
>>>> Engolo (Angola)"
>>>>
>>>> If Yoshi can have a sword then a stick fighter should be fine.
>>>>
>>>> The only thing I can see being a problem (besides Japanese racism)
>>>> Is that a lot of the African styles are very very brutal and may be
>>>> hard to incorporate into a game
>>>> that kids play.
>>>>
>>>> On 6 February 2015 at 14:45, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm. Trying to remember if that's cannon. It was part of his
>>>>> storyline in the official Namco story thing back in T2. It may have been
>>>>> retconned though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Di Lhong<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎06 14:37
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce is half thai? i didn't know that.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Japan is a pretty insular country. Oh, and a pretty racist country
>>>>> too. I don’t think Harada makes the game to cater for the international
>>>>> community either. Historically they’ve been pretty bad about having
>>>>> characters of African origin. Bruce was there early on, but he was
>>>>> half-Thai. The capos are Brazilian, so not African (well, up to debate on
>>>>> naturalisation vs. how far back you want to go). Tiger was there, but as a
>>>>> palette swap. I’ve been to Egypt. The country views itself as part of the
>>>>> Middle East, not part of Africa. I don’t count Zafina as African.
>>>>> I was amazed at the inclusion of Raven. While he does seem like a bit
>>>>> of a Blade rip off, Namco actually included an African American character
>>>>> who wasn’t a complete caricature.
>>>>>
>>>>> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Manase Zote
>>>>> Sent: 06 February 2015 12:51 PM
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Guys is the tekken team racist?
>>>>>
>>>>> I see no characters of African origin in T7 atm...
>>>>> What's your take guys?
>>>>> On 6 Feb 2015 12:28, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>> Did someone say Melty Blood?
>>>>>
>>>>> [
>>>>> http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091209080622/typemoon/images/d/d4/Mech-hisui_mbaa.png
>>>>> ]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Rei  is a clone created with no soul and no personality. She may be
>>>>> flesh and blood, but there is no difference between her and a robot.
>>>>> All of them have personalities in the end, but they don’t start with
>>>>> them.
>>>>> Also, by the end of Eva, Rei’s hopes and dreams all that junk still
>>>>> don’t amount to more than what’s been given to her (i.e. Gendo’s plan or
>>>>> Shinji’s decision). Chi is purely a product of Hideki. Alisa is just doing
>>>>> what Lars wants, until she gets the Jin wipe.
>>>>> None of them exist as independent characters. Sometimes characters in
>>>>> the stories will assume human motivations or such things, but usually
>>>>> they’re just lying to themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alisa is a different story in her endings – I mean she seems to be
>>>>> attending school and actually not just sitting in Lars’ broom closet
>>>>> waiting for him to get home.
>>>>>
>>>>> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Wynand-Ben
>>>>> Sent: 06 February 2015 11:40 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>>
>>>>> Eh...
>>>>>
>>>>> I dont really see the connections that binds those 3.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rei & Chi the "emotionless" aspect.
>>>>> Chi & Alisa are both "young" naive robots.
>>>>> I think Rei and Alisa have got personalities tho but not really Chi.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only one of the chars who really fits the trope I think you are
>>>>> describing would be Chi imo
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>>> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 09:12:44 +0000
>>>>> Ugh. I have a dislike for the trope. She’s the same as Rei in Eva, or
>>>>> Chi in Chobits. Female characters with no personality. I understand why
>>>>> they’re popular – they can in no way ever be threatening or take any
>>>>> decisions which will negatively impact the people in their lives. They can
>>>>> have no personality flaws because all they will ever have learned comes
>>>>> from the (usually pathetic) main character on whom they are dependent. 
>>>>> It’s
>>>>> a pretty insulting phenomenon.
>>>>> Effectively they’re blow-up dolls who can also clean the house and do
>>>>> laundry. Character design? What a joke.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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