Re: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 15:34:33 +0200

Nope they don't Paul does Judo and it's not American.
Capoeira is African by the way Steve.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Di Lhong <geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Do they really need to rep their fighting style from the country they're
> from? because look at Changs, Lee, Leo, etc.
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> What kind of unique traditional African fighting styles are there ?
>> I remember seeing some type of wrestling dudes do in one of the central
>> countries.
>> I think a big black grappler dude would be cool ~ he could be a proper
>> rival to Marduk
>>
>> Okay I've answered my question with some googling.
>> A Dambe fighter would be sick ~
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2759363/Fight-Club-Nigerian-style-The-brutal-West-African-martial-arts-tradition-country-s-culture-centuries.html
>>
>> "Africa
>> Styles of stickfighting
>>
>> Istunka (Somalia)
>> Nguni Stick Fighting (South Africa)
>> Nuba fighting (Sudan)
>> Surma stickfighting (Ethiopia)
>> Tahtib (Ancient Egypt)
>>
>> Folk wrestling
>>
>> Laamb Wrestling (Senegal)
>> Evala wrestling (Togo)
>>
>> Bare knuckle boxing
>>
>> Dambe (Nigeria)
>> Musangwe (South Africa)
>> Moraingy (Madagascar)
>>
>> Others
>>
>> Engolo (Angola)"
>>
>> If Yoshi can have a sword then a stick fighter should be fine.
>>
>> The only thing I can see being a problem (besides Japanese racism)
>> Is that a lot of the African styles are very very brutal and may be hard
>> to incorporate into a game
>> that kids play.
>>
>> On 6 February 2015 at 14:45, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hmmm. Trying to remember if that's cannon. It was part of his storyline
>>> in the official Namco story thing back in T2. It may have been retconned
>>> though.
>>>
>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Di Lhong<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎06 14:37
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>
>>> Bruce is half thai? i didn't know that.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> wrote:
>>> Japan is a pretty insular country. Oh, and a pretty racist country too.
>>> I don’t think Harada makes the game to cater for the international
>>> community either. Historically they’ve been pretty bad about having
>>> characters of African origin. Bruce was there early on, but he was
>>> half-Thai. The capos are Brazilian, so not African (well, up to debate on
>>> naturalisation vs. how far back you want to go). Tiger was there, but as a
>>> palette swap. I’ve been to Egypt. The country views itself as part of the
>>> Middle East, not part of Africa. I don’t count Zafina as African.
>>> I was amazed at the inclusion of Raven. While he does seem like a bit of
>>> a Blade rip off, Namco actually included an African American character who
>>> wasn’t a complete caricature.
>>>
>>> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
>>> On Behalf Of Manase Zote
>>> Sent: 06 February 2015 12:51 PM
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>
>>>
>>> Guys is the tekken team racist?
>>>
>>> I see no characters of African origin in T7 atm...
>>> What's your take guys?
>>> On 6 Feb 2015 12:28, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>>> ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>> Did someone say Melty Blood?
>>>
>>> [
>>> http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091209080622/typemoon/images/d/d4/Mech-hisui_mbaa.png
>>> ]
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>>> wrote:
>>> Rei  is a clone created with no soul and no personality. She may be
>>> flesh and blood, but there is no difference between her and a robot.
>>> All of them have personalities in the end, but they don’t start with
>>> them.
>>> Also, by the end of Eva, Rei’s hopes and dreams all that junk still
>>> don’t amount to more than what’s been given to her (i.e. Gendo’s plan or
>>> Shinji’s decision). Chi is purely a product of Hideki. Alisa is just doing
>>> what Lars wants, until she gets the Jin wipe.
>>> None of them exist as independent characters. Sometimes characters in
>>> the stories will assume human motivations or such things, but usually
>>> they’re just lying to themselves.
>>>
>>> Alisa is a different story in her endings – I mean she seems to be
>>> attending school and actually not just sitting in Lars’ broom closet
>>> waiting for him to get home.
>>>
>>> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
>>> On Behalf Of Wynand-Ben
>>> Sent: 06 February 2015 11:40 AM
>>>
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>>
>>> Eh...
>>>
>>> I dont really see the connections that binds those 3.
>>>
>>> Rei & Chi the "emotionless" aspect.
>>> Chi & Alisa are both "young" naive robots.
>>> I think Rei and Alisa have got personalities tho but not really Chi.
>>>
>>> Only one of the chars who really fits the trope I think you are
>>> describing would be Chi imo
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> >
>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 09:12:44 +0000
>>> Ugh. I have a dislike for the trope. She’s the same as Rei in Eva, or
>>> Chi in Chobits. Female characters with no personality. I understand why
>>> they’re popular – they can in no way ever be threatening or take any
>>> decisions which will negatively impact the people in their lives. They can
>>> have no personality flaws because all they will ever have learned comes
>>> from the (usually pathetic) main character on whom they are dependent. It’s
>>> a pretty insulting phenomenon.
>>> Effectively they’re blow-up dolls who can also clean the house and do
>>> laundry. Character design? What a joke.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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