RE: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: "Donaldson, Alasdair" <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 13:39:50 +0000

I thought it was from Angola. Not sure though.

From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Manase Zote
Sent: 06 February 2015 3:38 PM
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Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail

*LOL*
It's okay bra we are just debating/chatting that's all :D

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Stephen Scheidel 
<gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Oh
I was just copy pasting from wiki.
I don't have any fighting history knowledge.

On 6 February 2015 at 15:34, Manase Zote 
<bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Nope they don't Paul does Judo and it's not American.
Capoeira is African by the way Steve.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Di Lhong 
<geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:geosaurus8@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Do they really need to rep their fighting style from the country they're from? 
because look at Changs, Lee, Leo, etc.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Stephen Scheidel 
<gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
What kind of unique traditional African fighting styles are there ?
I remember seeing some type of wrestling dudes do in one of the central 
countries.
I think a big black grappler dude would be cool ~ he could be a proper rival to 
Marduk

Okay I've answered my question with some googling.
A Dambe fighter would be sick ~ 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2759363/Fight-Club-Nigerian-style-The-brutal-West-African-martial-arts-tradition-country-s-culture-centuries.html

"Africa
Styles of stickfighting

Istunka (Somalia)
Nguni Stick Fighting (South Africa)
Nuba fighting (Sudan)
Surma stickfighting (Ethiopia)
Tahtib (Ancient Egypt)

Folk wrestling

Laamb Wrestling (Senegal)
Evala wrestling (Togo)

Bare knuckle boxing

Dambe (Nigeria)
Musangwe (South Africa)
Moraingy (Madagascar)

Others

Engolo (Angola)"

If Yoshi can have a sword then a stick fighter should be fine.

The only thing I can see being a problem (besides Japanese racism)
Is that a lot of the African styles are very very brutal and may be hard to 
incorporate into a game
that kids play.

On 6 February 2015 at 14:45, Donaldson, Alasdair 
<alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hmmm. Trying to remember if that's cannon. It was part of his storyline in the 
official Namco story thing back in T2. It may have been retconned though.

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Subject: Re: DRE: CTS community mail

Bruce is half thai? i didn't know that.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair 
<alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>>
 wrote:
Japan is a pretty insular country. Oh, and a pretty racist country too. I don’t 
think Harada makes the game to cater for the international community either. 
Historically they’ve been pretty bad about having characters of African origin. 
Bruce was there early on, but he was half-Thai. The capos are Brazilian, so not 
African (well, up to debate on naturalisation vs. how far back you want to go). 
Tiger was there, but as a palette swap. I’ve been to Egypt. The country views 
itself as part of the Middle East, not part of Africa. I don’t count Zafina as 
African.
I was amazed at the inclusion of Raven. While he does seem like a bit of a 
Blade rip off, Namco actually included an African American character who wasn’t 
a complete caricature.

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Guys is the tekken team racist?

I see no characters of African origin in T7 atm...
What's your take guys?
On 6 Feb 2015 12:28, "Ilitirit Sama" 
<ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>>
 wrote:
Did someone say Melty Blood?

[http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091209080622/typemoon/images/d/d4/Mech-hisui_mbaa.png]

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair 
<alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx><mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>>
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Rei  is a clone created with no soul and no personality. She may be flesh and 
blood, but there is no difference between her and a robot.
All of them have personalities in the end, but they don’t start with them.
Also, by the end of Eva, Rei’s hopes and dreams all that junk still don’t 
amount to more than what’s been given to her (i.e. Gendo’s plan or Shinji’s 
decision). Chi is purely a product of Hideki. Alisa is just doing what Lars 
wants, until she gets the Jin wipe.
None of them exist as independent characters. Sometimes characters in the 
stories will assume human motivations or such things, but usually they’re just 
lying to themselves.

Alisa is a different story in her endings – I mean she seems to be attending 
school and actually not just sitting in Lars’ broom closet waiting for him to 
get home.

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Eh...

I dont really see the connections that binds those 3.

Rei & Chi the "emotionless" aspect.
Chi & Alisa are both "young" naive robots.
I think Rei and Alisa have got personalities tho but not really Chi.

Only one of the chars who really fits the trope I think you are describing 
would be Chi imo
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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 09:12:44 +0000
Ugh. I have a dislike for the trope. She’s the same as Rei in Eva, or Chi in 
Chobits. Female characters with no personality. I understand why they’re 
popular – they can in no way ever be threatening or take any decisions which 
will negatively impact the people in their lives. They can have no personality 
flaws because all they will ever have learned comes from the (usually pathetic) 
main character on whom they are dependent. It’s a pretty insulting phenomenon.
Effectively they’re blow-up dolls who can also clean the house and do laundry. 
Character design? What a joke.




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