Regarding the mumble meeting: It has been suggested that the PMC will not have a chair for a longer period of time, but rather that the chair changes from meeting to meeting. I second that thought. Bill earlier (on IRC) suggested that I organize the first meeting, which I would GLaDly do. However, if anyone else feels they or someone else should do it, that's just as good. I tried to summarize the points that will have to be discussed, so that everyone can get informed before the meeting and have an opinion / some information. I suppose the list is still not complete, so please add to it. Here it is, in chronological order: ## precedure related topics ## * method of voting * have Jos explain the nature of his foundation, and the intended nature of collaboration with the CipherShed Project * appoint QA Team members * define a protocol to be followed for merges to the codebase (PMC vs. QA Team) * decide how to accept new contributors * warrant canary solution * Voice chats vs. IRC / mailing list discussions * contact address (listaddress vs. @ciphershed.org) * hopefully give Jos the go-ahead for funneling all them people towards the CipherShed Project, and simultaneously discuss whether he should officially question the security of Protectorion on twitter ## code progress related topics ## * signing / tagging of commits (related to merge-protocol) * who does binary creation signing? Multiple persons for comparison? * estimate date for first rebranded release, as well as what is supposed to be included * decide what should be included in second 'bugfix-release', and try to estimate a timeframe / workload Niklas On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:22:00 -0400 "Alain Forget" <aforget@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Since no one's replied to this, let's go ahead and schedule our chat with Jos > for this Saturday at: > > PDT (GMT-7): 6:00 > EDT (GMT-4): 9:00 > UTC (GMT+0): 13:00 > CEST (GMT+2): 15:00 > Taiwan Time (GMT+8): 21:00 > > At least Bill, Niklas, Alain, and Jos should be there. Everyone else is of > course welcome to join if you can make it. > > The Mumble server is: mumble.k0nsl.org > Port: 64738 > > Bill, could you be on IRC, in case people need help getting into the Mumble > server? I wasn't able to connect when I last tested it, so we might need to > do a bit of troubleshooting. > > (This was purposefully top-posted to increase the likelihood people will see > it) > > Alain > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: ciphershed-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ciphershed- > >bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Niklas Lemcke - ??? > >Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 00:02 > >To: ciphershed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Subject: [ciphershed] Re: Mumble with Jos on Saturday between 13:00-16:00 > >GMT+0 > > > >On June 25, 2014 8:21:50 AM GMT+08:00, Alain Forget <aforget@xxxxxxx> > >wrote: > >>I, on the other hand, am the opposite, and actually enjoy this kind of > >>thing (when I have and/or can make time...the constant caveat *sigh*). > >> > >>Okay, so skimming the e-mails, not everyone mentioned Saturday, but if > >>we're aiming for Saturday, then Alain, Jos, Niklas, and Bill can be > >>available on Saturday between the following *equivalent* times (please > >>find your timezone): > >> > >>PDT (GMT-7): 6:00-9:00 > >>EDT (GMT-4): 9:00-12:00 > >>UTC (GMT+0): 13:00-16:00 > >>CEST (GMT+2): 15:00-18:00 > >>Taiwan Time (GMT+8): 21:00-24:00 > >> > >>I came to these times on Saturday from e-mails as follows: > >> > >>Niklas: Anytime before 18:00 in CEST/GMT+2 > >>Alain: Anytime during EDT waking hours > >>Jos: Anytime (which I assumed only meant waking hours, but preferably > >>business-ish hours in CEST). > >>Bill: Suggested Saturday is probably the best day, but didn't state any > >>available times, so I assumed no restrictions, and I think he is in > >>EDT. > >> > >>If I've gotten any of the above wrong, please say so. Also, anyone not > >>listed here but interested in participating, please do reply on whether > >>or not you're available within this time frame. > >> > >>Alain > >> > >>P.S. My apologies to anyone accustomed to 12-hour clocks, but 24-hour > >>clocks are really the best way to make sense of all these times. > >> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: ciphershed-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ciphershed- > >>>bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bill Cox > >>>Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 19:48 > >>>To: ciphershed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>Subject: [ciphershed] Re: Mumble voice chat with Jos at 3PM EST > >>> > >>>People in this group should understand that the reason I don't want to > >>be > >>>involved in running much of anything is I can not schedule tying my > >>own > >>>shoes. However it looks like the best time is probably on Saturday > >>from the > >>>replies I've seen so far. Anytime is good for me. Can someone proposed > >>a > >>>good time? Preferably something we're both Jos and Niklas are both > >>awake. > >>> > >>>On Jun 24, 2014 1:47 PM, "Niklas Lemcke - 林樂寬" > ><compul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 19:20:22 +0200 > >>> Jos Doekbrijder <jos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > >>> > Hi Everybody > >>> > > >>> > Here the time-slots that fit me... > >>> > > >>> > Tomorrow, Wednesday would be fine all day (up to 23:00h CEST) > >>> > Thursday would be good only from 19:00h-23:00h CEST > >>> > Friday would be fine until 17:00h only > >>> > Saturday would be fine the entire day > >>> > Sunday would be fine the entire day. > >>> > > >>> > Cheers > >>> > > >>> > Jos Doekbrijder > >>> > truecrypt.ch > >>> > Geissbüelstrasse 48 > >>> > 8704 Herrliberg > >>> > Switzerland > >>> > Tel: +41 79 211 24 46 <tel:%2B41%2079%20211%2024%2046> > >>> > > >>> > This message has been digitally signed to ensure unaltered and > >>>authenticated reception. 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Sobald Sie dies einmal > >>getan > >>>haben ist Ihr Email-Programm in der Lage, automatisch die Echtheit von > >>>meinen E-Mails festzustellen. > >>> > > >>> > On 24.06.2014, at 18:45, Bill Cox <waywardgeek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Alain Forget > >>><aforget@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > > I do think scheduling a bit further in the future would be good, > >>to > >>>give others a chance to join in. Furthermore, we could wait until the > >>PMC is > >>>formed, make a PMC mailing list, and arrange the chat there. This > >>would have > >>>the benefit of (possibly) having fewer people with which to coordinate > >>a > >>>meeting time (which is always easier), and I think we've largely > >>decided that > >>>it's clearly within the PMC's mandate to interface with external > >>parties. The > >>>disadvantage is that it could be a bit longer before we chat with Jos, > >>but I do > >>>think it's important that key people who want to be there are present. > >>> > > > >>> > > I can also do 3PM Eastern Daylight Time (7PM GMT) tomorrow > >>>(Wednesday) or Friday. > >>> > > > >>> > > Alain > >>> > > > >>> > > Ok. I'll see if he's on Skype in an hour and see if we can set > >>up a > >>>later time. We were talking about possibly being ready this weekend > >>for Jos > >>>to send out his message to developers that we're ready to work with > >>them. I > >>>think we need to chat with Jos first, and probably have time to > >>discuss things > >>>here before that happens. What would be a good time to try and talk > >>with > >>>Jos? > >>> > > > >>> > > Bill > >>> > > >>> > >>> I never even heard of mumble. > >>> > >>> All times in GMT+2 so we can compare them. I live in GMT+8 > >>> > >>> I'm fine Sat + Sun the whole day, ending around 6PM; > >>> Friday after 5PM, > >>> Thursday after 7AM > >>> Wed also after 7AM > >>> both until around 6 or 7 PM. > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Niklas > >>> > >>> At the time of writing, no warrants have ever been served to me, > >>>Niklas > >>> Lemcke, nor am I under any personal legal compulsion concerning the > >>> CipherShed project. I do not know of any searches or seizures of my > >>> assets. > >>> > > > >I could also go a little later on a sat. > > > >What about Chris, Frank and the others? Is Friday acceptable? > > -- Niklas At the time of writing, no warrants have ever been served to me, Niklas Lemcke, nor am I under any personal legal compulsion concerning the CipherShed project. I do not know of any searches or seizures of my assets.
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