Stephen, would you attend future voice meetings if I sent you a USB mic? I have some extras. One item for discussion: should we record voice meetings and post them? Also, can we have simultaneous IRC chat with voice chat? That would allow Stephen and possibly some others to participate, and I've found it useful in past meetings. I like everything I've read here. If Jos (or anyone else) wants to join in and remain silent while we're discussing PMC items, that's fine by me. The more openness, the better, IMO, though we need someone with the ability to kick anyone who is disruptive. I think for efficiency it would be a good idea to have Niklas run this voice meeting and come up with suggestions that we tentatively agree to. We could even start following the procedures we come up with. Should we put it all up for further discussion and voting on the email list before anything becomes official? That would allow Steven and the others who can't make the voice meeting to have their say. Jason, I think we need to talk about auto-build and test methodology, but I'm not sure if we'll have time in this meeting. Are there PMC members who would not want be involved with discussing details of test methodology? We will need machines available for auto-build and regression tests. Is that something where Jos could help? Just my $0.02. Bill