[ciphershed] Re: Mumble with Jos: Saturday at 13:00 GMT+0
- From: Pid Zero <p1dz3r0@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "ciphershed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ciphershed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 14:21:16 +0100
I'll be attending the mumble chat on Saturday with Jos too. Having the
first PMC discussion via voice chat is also a good idea.
On Friday, June 27, 2014, Alain Forget <aforget@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'm not sure the Mumble meeting on Saturday will also be able to double as
> the PMC's first meeting, since there are only make 3 or 4 of the PMC (Bill,
> Niklas, Alain, maybe Jason) who are confirmed to be present.
>
> However, I would very much like for at least the first PMC meeting to be
> on voice chat, since we could very quickly discuss and decide on many of
> the list items and get everything rolling, so maybe we should try
> scheduling one?
>
> Alain
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: ciphershed-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:;> [mailto:ciphershed-
> <javascript:;>
> >bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of Niklas Lemcke - ???
> >Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 06:12
> >To: ciphershed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>
> >Subject: [ciphershed] Re: Mumble with Jos: Saturday at 13:00 GMT+0
> >
> >Regarding the mumble meeting:
> >
> >It has been suggested that the PMC will not have a chair for a longer
> >period of time, but rather that the chair changes from meeting to
> >meeting. I second that thought. Bill earlier (on IRC) suggested that I
> >organize the first meeting, which I would GLaDly do. However, if anyone
> >else feels they or someone else should do it, that's just as good.
> >
> >I tried to summarize the points that will have to be discussed, so that
> >everyone can get informed before the meeting and have an opinion / some
> >information. I suppose the list is still not complete, so please add to
> >it.
> >
> >Here it is, in chronological order:
> >
> >## precedure related topics ##
> > * method of voting
> > * have Jos explain the nature of his foundation, and the intended
> >nature of collaboration with the CipherShed Project
> > * appoint QA Team members
> > * define a protocol to be followed for merges to the codebase (PMC vs.
> >QA Team)
> > * decide how to accept new contributors
> > * warrant canary solution
> > * Voice chats vs. IRC / mailing list discussions
> > * contact address (listaddress vs. @ciphershed.org)
> > * hopefully give Jos the go-ahead for funneling all them people
> >towards the CipherShed Project, and simultaneously discuss whether he
> >should officially question the security of Protectorion on twitter
> >
> >
> >## code progress related topics ##
> > * signing / tagging of commits (related to merge-protocol)
> > * who does binary creation signing? Multiple persons for comparison?
> > * estimate date for first rebranded release, as well as what is
> >supposed to be included
> > * decide what should be included in second 'bugfix-release', and try
> >to estimate a timeframe / workload
> >
> >
> >Niklas
> >
> >
> >On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:22:00 -0400
> >"Alain Forget" <aforget@xxxxxxx <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> >> Since no one's replied to this, let's go ahead and schedule our chat
> with Jos
> >for this Saturday at:
> >>
> >> PDT (GMT-7): 6:00
> >> EDT (GMT-4): 9:00
> >> UTC (GMT+0): 13:00
> >> CEST (GMT+2): 15:00
> >> Taiwan Time (GMT+8): 21:00
> >>
> >> At least Bill, Niklas, Alain, and Jos should be there. Everyone else is
> of course
> >welcome to join if you can make it.
> >>
> >> The Mumble server is: mumble.k0nsl.org
> >> Port: 64738
> >>
> >> Bill, could you be on IRC, in case people need help getting into the
> Mumble
> >server? I wasn't able to connect when I last tested it, so we might need
> to do
> >a bit of troubleshooting.
> >>
> >> (This was purposefully top-posted to increase the likelihood people
> will see
> >it)
> >>
> >> Alain
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: ciphershed-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:;> [mailto:
> ciphershed- <javascript:;>
> >> >bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of Niklas Lemcke - ???
> >> >Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 00:02
> >> >To: ciphershed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>
> >> >Subject: [ciphershed] Re: Mumble with Jos on Saturday between 13:00-
> >16:00
> >> >GMT+0
> >> >
> >> >On June 25, 2014 8:21:50 AM GMT+08:00, Alain Forget <aforget@xxxxxxx
> <javascript:;>>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >>I, on the other hand, am the opposite, and actually enjoy this kind of
> >> >>thing (when I have and/or can make time...the constant caveat *sigh*).
> >> >>
> >> >>Okay, so skimming the e-mails, not everyone mentioned Saturday, but if
> >> >>we're aiming for Saturday, then Alain, Jos, Niklas, and Bill can be
> >> >>available on Saturday between the following *equivalent* times (please
> >> >>find your timezone):
> >> >>
> >> >>PDT (GMT-7): 6:00-9:00
> >> >>EDT (GMT-4): 9:00-12:00
> >> >>UTC (GMT+0): 13:00-16:00
> >> >>CEST (GMT+2): 15:00-18:00
> >> >>Taiwan Time (GMT+8): 21:00-24:00
> >> >>
> >> >>I came to these times on Saturday from e-mails as follows:
> >> >>
> >> >>Niklas: Anytime before 18:00 in CEST/GMT+2
> >> >>Alain: Anytime during EDT waking hours
> >> >>Jos: Anytime (which I assumed only meant waking hours, but preferably
> >> >>business-ish hours in CEST).
> >> >>Bill: Suggested Saturday is probably the best day, but didn't state
> any
> >> >>available times, so I assumed no restrictions, and I think he is in
> >> >>EDT.
> >> >>
> >> >>If I've gotten any of the above wrong, please say so. Also, anyone not
> >> >>listed here but interested in participating, please do reply on
> whether
> >> >>or not you're available within this time frame.
> >> >>
> >> >>Alain
> >> >>
> >> >>P.S. My apologies to anyone accustomed to 12-hour clocks, but 24-hour
> >> >>clocks are really the best way to make sense of all these times.
> >> >>
> >> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >> >>>From: ciphershed-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:;> [mailto:
> ciphershed- <javascript:;>
> >> >>>bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of Bill Cox
> >> >>>Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 19:48
> >> >>>To: ciphershed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>
> >> >>>Subject: [ciphershed] Re: Mumble voice chat with Jos at 3PM EST
> >> >>>
> >> >>>People in this group should understand that the reason I don't want
> to
> >> >>be
> >> >>>involved in running much of anything is I can not schedule tying my
> >> >>own
> >> >>>shoes. However it looks like the best time is probably on Saturday
> >> >>from the
> >> >>>replies I've seen so far. Anytime is good for me. Can someone
> proposed
> >> >>a
> >> >>>good time? Preferably something we're both Jos and Niklas are both
> >> >>awake.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>On Jun 24, 2014 1:47 PM, "Niklas Lemcke - 林樂寬"
> >> ><compul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>>
> >> >>>wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 19:20:22 +0200
> >> >>> Jos Doekbrijder <jos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> > Hi Everybody
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Here the time-slots that fit me...
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Tomorrow, Wednesday would be fine all day (up to 23:00h CEST)
> >> >>> > Thursday would be good only from 19:00h-23:00h CEST
> >> >>> > Friday would be fine until 17:00h only
> >> >>> > Saturday would be fine the entire day
> >> >>> > Sunday would be fine the entire day.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Cheers
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Jos Doekbrijder
> >> >>> > truecrypt.ch
> >> >>> > Geissbüelstrasse 48
> >> >>> > 8704 Herrliberg
> >> >>> > Switzerland
> >> >>> > Tel: +41 79 211 24 46 <tel:%2B41%2079%20211%2024%2046>
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > This message has been digitally signed to ensure unaltered and
> >> >>>authenticated reception. Should you receive an error message
> regarding
> >> >>the
> >> >>>validity of the signature, please verify that the mail is really
> >> >>coming from me (a
> >> >>>phone call will do) and then set the certificate to "trusted". Once
> >> >>you do this
> >> >>>your email application will be able to automatically verify the
> >> >>authenticity of e-
> >> >>>mail messages sent to you by me.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Diese Nachricht wurde digital signiert um einen unveränderten und
> >> >>>authentifizierten Empfang zu gewährleisten. Sollten Sie eine
> >> >>Fehlermeldung
> >> >>>bezüglich der Gültigkeit der Signatur bekommen, überprüfen Sie bitte
> >> >>ob
> >> >>>diese Nachricht wirklich von mir kommt (ein Anruf genügt) darauf
> >> >>können Sie
> >> >>>das Zertifikat als vertrauenswürdig speichern. Sobald Sie dies einmal
> >> >>getan
> >> >>>haben ist Ihr Email-Programm in der Lage, automatisch die Echtheit
> von
> >> >>>meinen E-Mails festzustellen.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On 24.06.2014, at 18:45, Bill Cox <waywardgeek@xxxxxxxxx
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Alain Forget
> >> >>><aforget@xxxxxxx <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> >>> > > I do think scheduling a bit further in the future would be
> good,
> >> >>to
> >> >>>give others a chance to join in. Furthermore, we could wait until the
> >> >>PMC is
> >> >>>formed, make a PMC mailing list, and arrange the chat there. This
> >> >>would have
> >> >>>the benefit of (possibly) having fewer people with which to
> coordinate
> >> >>a
> >> >>>meeting time (which is always easier), and I think we've largely
> >> >>decided that
> >> >>>it's clearly within the PMC's mandate to interface with external
> >> >>parties. The
> >> >>>disadvantage is that it could be a bit longer before we chat with
> Jos,
> >> >>but I do
> >> >>>think it's important that key people who want to be there are
> present.
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > I can also do 3PM Eastern Daylight Time (7PM GMT) tomorrow
> >> >>>(Wednesday) or Friday.
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > Alain
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > Ok. I'll see if he's on Skype in an hour and see if we can set
> >> >>up a
> >> >>>later time. We were talking about possibly being ready this weekend
> >> >>for Jos
> >> >>>to send out his message to developers that we're ready to work with
> >> >>them. I
> >> >>>think we need to chat with Jos first, and probably have time to
> >> >>discuss things
> >> >>>here before that happens. What would be a good time to try and talk
> >> >>with
> >> >>>Jos?
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > Bill
> >> >>> >
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I never even heard of mumble.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> All times in GMT+2 so we can compare them. I live in GMT+8
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'm fine Sat + Sun the whole day, ending around 6PM;
> >> >>> Friday after 5PM,
> >> >>> Thursday after 7AM
> >> >>> Wed also after 7AM
> >> >>> both until around 6 or 7 PM.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Niklas
> >> >>>
> >> >>> At the time of writing, no warrants have ever been served to me,
> >> >>>Niklas
> >> >>> Lemcke, nor am I under any personal legal compulsion concerning the
> >> >>> CipherShed project. I do not know of any searches or seizures of my
> >> >>> assets.
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >> >I could also go a little later on a sat.
> >> >
> >> >What about Chris, Frank and the others? Is Friday acceptable?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Niklas
> >
> >At the time of writing, no warrants have ever been served to me, Niklas
> >Lemcke, nor am I under any personal legal compulsion concerning the
> >CipherShed project. I do not know of any searches or seizures of my
> >assets.
>
>
>
--
--
At the time of writing, no warrants have ever been served to me, nor am I
under any personal legal compulsion concerning the
CipherShed project. I do not know of any searches or seizures of my
assets.
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