Willard hosts it's PTG website at Doteasy.com, I'm sure we could also use their mailing list server. Only a handful of people post to the list, so it would not be a big change. Also, I know that Richard spends a lot of time fixing the server, and I always hesitate to bother Richard, but it is our only option now. I would much rather bother a hosting company. Bob On Sep 19, 2010, at 10:13 AM, Richard Wells wrote: > Hi all, > > As many of you know, I'm the parent volunteer who helps keep the mailing list > server running. I have children at CMS and CCHS and we were at Thoreau, where > I set up and ran an earlier incarnation of the web site and helped with the > transition to electronic announcements. This year I'm also managing the CMS > PTG e-mail list membership. > > The list on which you are receiving this message, cc-lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, is > a new version of an earlier such list on lists.ptg-concord.org. Several of > you were on that list back when we were working through populating the PTG > lists from X2. I've included each school's PTG presidents, communication, and > e-mail list folks; each school's principal; and Gene Warfel. A copy of the > list membership is appended, below. If you want off this list or think > someone else should be included, please let me know. > > The reason for this list and this message is to start the conversation about > moving the lists off of lists.ptg-concord.org. This is a server, which also > goes by the name adrian.colonial.net, which the school district has > generously made available to the PTGs for many years. Some predecessors to me > set it up, I got involved, and took over the backend side of things when they > graduated. Over the years it has not always been a smooth or simple operation > and I've spent many hours fixing things. And the server is a cost to the > district, both as a capital asset, as well as a source of networking > problems: it is a spam magnet and, due to how the mailing list software > works, spam can flow through the server---though not to the lists---making > the server look like a source of spam to other systems. > > On the district side, ConnectEd has been a great solution to the problem of > emergency communication via e-mail. There were times before that when the > schools would want to send an important message through the PTG list and the > system was down, putting stress on me, a parent volunteer, to fix the system. > > Since the start of the school year we've again had a round of issues: > colonial.net getting blacklisted as a spammer; the list server getting > blocked by big ISPs (AT&T, Earthlink). And folks concerned about not getting > out their messages or not receiving their messages. > > Gene, as owner of colonial.net, and I, as volunteer admin, agree it is time > to retire adrian and find a new home (or homes) for the PTG lists. > > I think these are the broad questions we need to consider: > > 1. Should the PTG be responsible for mailing list systems carrying official > school messages? > > The daily announcements for CCHS and CMS contain a lot of school information. > In the old days these would have come home on school letterhead. Coming from > adrian, a school server, it makes some sense. But if we move to (e.g.) > cms-ptg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, should that really be carrying information from the > school to parents? Should we instead divide up the school and PTG > communications and have the school communications flow through e.g. > ConnectEd, and use the PTG list for lower-volume, PTG-only information? (E.g. > social events, fundraisers, etc.) Do we want the PTG responsible when the > system carrying school information is acting up? > > 2. Should all the PTGs use the same mailing list system? > > The system we have now was originally set up for CMS and CCHS. We then added > the elementary schools. However, there really is no specific need for them > all to be on a single system. As long as each PTG is getting what it needs > done and has volunteers who can run it. > > 3. Which mailing list system(s) should the PTG move to? > > Choices include big sites like Google Groups and Yahoo Groups or smaller > places like FreeLists (where this "meta-list" is hosted, as a way of checking > out its suitability). There are pluses and minuses in all cases, and we can > get into the details of these choices as the conversation progresses. > > > Please reply to this message with your thoughts. If I've set up the list > correctly :-) it will go to everyone on the list. (You should see > cc-lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx in your To: field.) > > Cheers, > Richard > > > ################################################################# > # cc-lists - mailing list of Concord K-8 and CCHS parents and > # school administrators interested in issues with > # PTG mailing lists > ################################################################# > # Modification History > # 2010.09.17.15:55 RAW updated for fall 2010 > ################################################################# > > ################################################################# > # Alcott > ################################################################# > > # Ellen Rice - PTG co-prez > efrice@xxxxxxxxxxx > > # Johanna Boynton - PTG co-prez > jojoboynton@xxxxxxxxxxx > > # John Peachey - List Admin > jpeachey@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > # Christine Paulsen - Communication > paulsen@xxxxxxxxxxx > > # Sharon Carroll - Communication > sharoncarroll@xxxxxxxxxxx > > # Sharon Young - Principal > syoung@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > ################################################################# > # CCHS > ################################################################# > > # Linda Miller - PA President > lindaimiller@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > # Alan Budris - List Administrator > alan.budris@xxxxxxxxx > cchs_lists@xxxxxxxxxxx > > # Louisa Colemen - CCHS Content > lcoleman@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > # Martha Hammer - CCHS Content > mhammer@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > # Peter Badalement - Principal > pbadalement@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > ################################################################# > # CMS > ################################################################# > > # Jill Colleran - PTG Co-Pres > jillcolleran@xxxxxxxxxxx > > # Sandra Stout - PTG Co-Pres > sandra.stout@xxxxxxxxxxx > > # Tracey Belden - Daily Announcements > thedavispack@xxxxxxxxxxx > > # Joyce Chutchian - Missive > cms.missive@xxxxxxxxx > > # Richard Wells - List Admin > raw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > # Lynne Beattie - Principal > lbeattie@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > ################################################################# > # CPS > ################################################################# > > # Gene Warfel - Director of Technology > GWarfel@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > ################################################################# > # Thoreau > ################################################################# > > # Karen Brown > dmbkjb@xxxxxxxxxxx > > # Melanie Bettencourt > thebettencourts@xxxxxxxxxxx > > # Weekly Announcements > announcements@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > # Directory (which might also be list changes) > directory@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > # Kelly Clough - Principal > kclough@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > ################################################################# > # Willard > ################################################################# > > # Aimee Cupp - PTG co-Pres > # Amy Mueller - PTG co-Pres > president@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > # Christine Evans - Willard Weekly > willardweekly@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > # Jen Waldron, Christine Evans - Communications > willardweekly@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > # Bob Rainis - List Administrator > brainis@xxxxxxxxxxx > > # Pat Fernandes - Principal > pfernandes@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > -- > -- Richard A. Wells > -- raw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- personal > -- raw@xxxxxxx -- professional