[cc-lists] Re: Discussion of CPS and Concord-Carlisle E-Mail Lists

  • From: Richard Wells <raw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cc-lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 21:02:22 -0400

Hi Bob,

Thanks very much for you comment (and your consideration :-).

I took a quick look at doteasy's mailing list support and it looks from
their tutorial page like there is no bulk subscription mechanism and there
may be a limit on the number of recipients in a list. When we get to
evalutating potential providers, we can compare features in greater detail.
They may have other features/support they don't describe in the tutorial.

Cheers,
Richard

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 12:20, Bob Rainis <brainis@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Willard hosts it's PTG website at Doteasy.com, I'm sure we could also use
> their mailing list server. Only a handful of people post to the list, so it
> would not be a big change.
> Also, I know that Richard spends a lot of time fixing the server, and I
> always hesitate to bother Richard, but it is our only option now. I would
> much rather bother a hosting company.
>
> Bob
>
> On Sep 19, 2010, at 10:13 AM, Richard Wells wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> As many of you know, I'm the parent volunteer who helps keep the mailing
> list server running. I have children at CMS and CCHS and we were at Thoreau,
> where I set up and ran an earlier incarnation of the web site and helped
> with the transition to electronic announcements. This year I'm also managing
> the CMS PTG e-mail list membership.
>
> The list on which you are receiving this message, cc-lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> is a new version of an earlier such list on lists.ptg-concord.org. Several
> of you were on that list back when we were working through populating the
> PTG lists from X2. I've included each school's PTG presidents,
> communication, and e-mail list folks;  each school's principal; and Gene
> Warfel. A copy of the list membership is appended, below. If you want off
> this list or think someone else should be included, please let me know.
>
> The reason for this list and this message is to start the conversation
> about moving the lists off of lists.ptg-concord.org. This is a server,
> which also goes by the name adrian.colonial.net, which the school district
> has generously made available to the PTGs for many years. Some predecessors
> to me set it up, I got involved, and took over the backend side of things
> when they graduated. Over the years it has not always been a smooth or
> simple operation and I've spent many hours fixing things. And the server is
> a cost to the district, both as a capital asset, as well as a source of
> networking problems: it is a spam magnet and, due to how the mailing list
> software works, spam can flow through the server---though not to the
> lists---making the server look like a source of spam to other systems.
>
> On the district side, ConnectEd has been a great solution to the problem of
> emergency communication via e-mail. There were times before that when the
> schools would want to send an important message through the PTG list and the
> system was down, putting stress on me, a parent volunteer, to fix the
> system.
>
> Since the start of the school year we've again had a round of issues:
> colonial.net getting blacklisted as a spammer; the list server getting
> blocked by big ISPs (AT&T, Earthlink). And folks concerned about not getting
> out their messages or not receiving their messages.
>
> Gene, as owner of colonial.net, and I, as volunteer admin, agree it is
> time to retire adrian and find a new home (or homes) for the PTG lists.
>
> I think these are the broad questions we need to consider:
>
> *1. Should the PTG be responsible for mailing list systems carrying
> official school messages? *
>
> The daily announcements for CCHS and CMS contain a lot of school
> information. In the old days these would have come home on school
> letterhead. Coming from adrian, a school server, it makes some sense. But if
> we move to (e.g.) cms-ptg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, should that really be carrying
> information from the school to parents? Should we instead divide up the
> school and PTG communications and have the school communications flow
> through e.g. ConnectEd, and use the PTG list for lower-volume, PTG-only
> information? (E.g. social events, fundraisers, etc.) Do we want the PTG
> responsible when the system carrying school information is acting up?
>
> *2. Should all the PTGs use the same mailing list system?*
>
> The system we have now was originally set up for CMS and CCHS. We then
> added the elementary schools. However, there really is no specific need for
> them all to be on a single system. As long as each PTG is getting what it
> needs done and has volunteers who can run it.
>
> *3. Which mailing list system(s) should the PTG move to?*
>
> Choices include big sites like Google Groups and Yahoo Groups or smaller
> places like FreeLists (where this "meta-list" is hosted, as a way of
> checking out its suitability).  There are pluses and minuses in all cases,
> and we can get into the details of these choices as the conversation
> progresses.
>
>
> Please reply to this message with your thoughts. If I've set up the list
> correctly :-) it will go to everyone on the list. (You should see
> cc-lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx in your To: field.)
>
> Cheers,
> Richard
>
>
> #################################################################
> # cc-lists - mailing list of Concord K-8 and CCHS parents and
> #            school administrators interested in issues with
> #            PTG mailing lists
> #################################################################
> # Modification History
> #   2010.09.17.15:55  RAW  updated for fall 2010
> #################################################################
>
> #################################################################
> # Alcott
> #################################################################
>
> # Ellen Rice - PTG co-prez
> efrice@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> # Johanna Boynton - PTG co-prez
> jojoboynton@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> # John Peachey - List Admin
> jpeachey@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> # Christine Paulsen - Communication
> paulsen@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> # Sharon Carroll - Communication
> sharoncarroll@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> # Sharon Young - Principal
> syoung@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> #################################################################
> # CCHS
> #################################################################
>
> # Linda Miller - PA President
> lindaimiller@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> # Alan Budris - List Administrator
> alan.budris@xxxxxxxxx
> cchs_lists@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> # Louisa Colemen - CCHS Content
> lcoleman@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> # Martha Hammer - CCHS Content
> mhammer@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> # Peter Badalement - Principal
> pbadalement@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> #################################################################
> # CMS
> #################################################################
>
> # Jill Colleran - PTG Co-Pres
> jillcolleran@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> # Sandra Stout - PTG Co-Pres
> sandra.stout@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> # Tracey Belden - Daily Announcements
> thedavispack@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> # Joyce Chutchian - Missive
> cms.missive@xxxxxxxxx
>
> # Richard Wells - List Admin
> raw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> # Lynne Beattie - Principal
> lbeattie@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> #################################################################
> # CPS
> #################################################################
>
> # Gene Warfel - Director of Technology
>  GWarfel@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> #################################################################
> # Thoreau
> #################################################################
>
> # Karen Brown
> dmbkjb@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> # Melanie Bettencourt
> thebettencourts@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> # Weekly Announcements
> announcements@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> # Directory (which might also be list changes)
> directory@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> # Kelly Clough - Principal
> kclough@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> #################################################################
> # Willard
> #################################################################
>
> # Aimee Cupp - PTG co-Pres
> # Amy Mueller - PTG co-Pres
> president@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> # Christine Evans - Willard Weekly
> willardweekly@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> # Jen Waldron, Christine Evans - Communications
> willardweekly@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> # Bob Rainis - List Administrator
> brainis@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> # Pat Fernandes - Principal
> pfernandes@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> --
> -- Richard A. Wells
> -- raw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- personal
> -- raw@xxxxxxx -- professional
>
>
>


-- 
-- Richard A. Wells
-- raw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- personal
-- raw@xxxxxxx -- professional

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