Dear Patti and Booksharian Friends, This has been such a productive discussion. If it goes further we could switch it to the list dedicated to volunteers helping volunteers deal with technical issues. bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Patti,Do you still have the comments from staff that you got when your proofread books were returned? Regardless, I’ll be happy to help you off list. Contact me at airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Once you get past the details to correct and get some practice, your books will begin to slide right into the collection and returned books will only be a memory. Oh, but any of us can slip up. A few months ago I had a book returned because I dumped a book on to the checkout page that didn’t match my book in any way!!! Since I had an assortment of nonbook files in the same folder, I’ve wondered what unwelcome surprise I sent Bookshare instead of the book I proofread. Actually it’s comforting knowing they are there to catch our oversights. Just think if someone checked out a biography of Louisa May Alcott and got my file of Duck Dynasty recipes? Whew! Also, when proofreading with Word, you can switch on a function without realizing it that can muck up your file. When the staff sends your book back, you realize the problem and can tell Word to stop doing the disruptive thing. For example, once my word automatically capitalized the first letter in every single line of a file. It happened near the end of the book. I noticed and fixed a few of the extra capitals not knowing that Word was putting them right back in when I moved to the next line. It’s all about experience. Each bump in the road makes the next stretch smoother. Some books are challenges and some are pieces of cake. The challenges are rewarding because at the end you’ve learned new tricks to make you a better proofreader. My proofreading rate hovers between 20 and 35 pages an hour depending on page length, level of vocabulary, presence of technical terms, dialect and foreign languages and accuracy of scan. Depending on the book and how much time I have a proof can take between days and weeks. Evan scans rings around me in terms of speed including the time he spends on careful clean up. These are just facts. We each appreciate the other’s work. Always with love, Lissi From: Patti Johnson Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 8:15 AM To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Volunteering for Bookshare Amen Sharon. I proofed for a while but after the last 2 books I proofed were not accepted and I didn't understand why because I had done the same things as I had with the books that were, I gave up. I am just not patient enough, I guess. And Scanning takes even longer. I see enough errors and strange things with the publisher submitted books that make me think that my mistakes weren't all that bad. Just me. Patti On 4/13/2014 9:30 PM, Sharon wrote: Yea, I’m the opposite. I’d much rather scan than proofread. Especially with the new standards for proofreading. I just don’t have the patience for it; I want to be scanning the next book. Sharon From: Kim Friedman [mailto:kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 6:58 PM To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Volunteering for Bookshare Hi Bob, I remembered telling a friend of mine what I was proofreading and she saying she’d go nuts if she tried to do that. I know there are people who are comfortable doing both scanning files and proofreading but I find the prospect of scanning intimidating, but proofreading I enjoyed, especially if I got to read something I was interested in. I’d get to read the book before anyone else at Bookshare did (I’m referring to fellow Booksharians and not to the admin. Staff.) I haven’t analyzed what makes some people prefer Scanning files and vice versa. I think there must be continuum of submitters who would rather do anything rather than proofreading to those like me. Regards, Kim Friedman. From: Bob W [mailto:rwiley45@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 3:21 PM To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Volunteering for Bookshare Hi Christina. Sounds like you would take volunteering seriously. Great! That's what they need. I haven't volunteered for about a year because of arthritis. However, volunteering was one of the most challenging and interesting parts of my bookshare experience. You may find that different people consider certain hardware and software essential. I used Kurzweil extensively in my proofreading, and would deem it essential, but others might not. Another thing I found essential was communication with the person doing the scanning. I love good teamwork, and this fit right in perfectly. However, beware of volunteering as a proofreader: it could become addictive. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: Christine Szostak To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 3:49 PM Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Volunteering for Bookshare Hi All, I am considering volunteering for Bookshare and have a quick question. My particular interest is in proof reading as I have done a fair amount of general proofing for students, peers, and colleagues and love doing it! As I am totally blind, I was curious if anyone here without any vision is a proof reader and how you deal with things like making sure paging is accurately matching the original hard-copy source and how you deal with things like knowing that bolding needs to be added without looking visually at the original source... I know how you check for these types of things with JAWS so I would know how to check whether they are present or not, but what I do not know is how to check whether they match the original text. Any advice or suggestions would be much appreciated! Have a wonderful week! Chris Christine M. Szostak, PhD Assistant Professor Department of Psychology Shorter University Rome, Georgia szostak.1@xxxxxxx If you are interested in a professional consultation for a vision loss related issue see: http://findingthevision.wikidot.com If you are in need of a professional consultation for general research/statistical related issues see: http://researchconsulting.wikidot.com If you are looking for professional proof reading or editorial review services see: http://researchconsulting.wikidot.com