Well, this isn't the place for that discussion, but you can do all the things in your list with your choice of Dectalk or Eloquence speech and a Braille or Qwerty keyboard. Of course you are limited to writing and reading text files; no Braille files, no Daisy files, no Word files, etc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Kennedy" <jkenn337@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 6:38 PM Subject: [bookport] Re: the holidays and bookport : If my cell phone could take notes and record, I'd put music on my cell : phone. In fact if it were a smart phone or pda phone, I'd probably buy : mobilespeak pocket for it and put that on there and use my cell phone for : email and the internet when I would be away from my computer. But the cell : phone I have does not have the ability for someone to load a screen reader : onto it although it does have these features. I really wish I could use the : calculator and alarm clock and office suite in my cell phone. But I can't : because they don't and never will talk. And I can see why people would want : cameras in their phones, so they don't have to carry around that extra piece : of equipment. The camera's right in the phone. just snap a picture or record : some video and then just email it right back home or put it onto the : computer for editing or later printing. It's about convenience. It's like : saying, ok, you can only use a touch-tone telephone a standard phone to make : and receive calls. You can't call freedom or pulsedata because they ask you : to choose options from a menu, and what you got there is just a standard : telephone. in order to call 1800 numbers for companies that use touchtone : phones you need this special touchtone box. This is a seperate piece of : equipment. I myself would rather just be able to choose from menu options : right from the convenience of my touchtone phone, rather than buy some other : box or piece of equipment just to call automated telephone systems. It's : about convenience, and what else can we make our product do which will : entice people to buy it. What do our customers want most? yes it's a : bookport, yes it reads books. but what else can we make it do? if we limit : it by saying it reads books and that is all it will ever do, and if it : doesn't evolve and get better, then people will either stop buying most : likely or they'll not buy nearly as much. Products have to grow and evolve : to meet customer demand. : : Josh : : he should try out the animal before he bought him. He took the could. The : Bear soon left him, for it is said he will not touch-land... A RIVER carried : down in its stream two Pots, one made of pounce upon in a whole year. Evil : wishes, like chickens, come home to roost. : ----- Original Message ----- : From: "Tyler Wood" <tcwood12@xxxxxxx> : To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> : Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 6:44 PM : Subject: [bookport] Re: the holidays and bookport : : : > yes, all I'd use a cell phone for is calling people, nothing more. And : > ipods shouldn't be used to play vidio files. Music is fine. What all the : > hype about ipod is I don't know, anyway. : > : > Tyler : > ----- Original Message ----- : > From: "Josh Kennedy" <jkenn337@xxxxxxxxxxxx> : > To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> : > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 1:17 PM : > Subject: [bookport] Re: the holidays and bookport : > : > : >> so then does that mean that a cell phone should just be a phone and : >> nothing more? A cell phone should not browse the web, not do email, not : >> have a calculator. it's a phone, and that's all it should be is a phone, : >> not a calculator or a clock or a web browser, just a phone. Should they : >> take the video ipods off the market also? I don't want the bookport to be : >> a braille n speak or braillenote. all I'm asking for is a simple : >> spell-checker like that which exists in the braille n speak. and a simple : >> calculator. and an alarm clock. and higher-level recording for those who : >> want to take advantage of it. if aph can't do any of these things because : >> of hardware limitations, fine. if they can? that's would be wonderful : >> great! My point? yes it's primary purpose is for reading. yes I think it : >> should have a pronunciation dictionary for changing the pronunciation of : >> words in books. A calculator wouldn't be too hard to implement. and a : >> spell-checker, if done correctly wouldn't be that hard to implement : >> either I don't think. I'm not looking for something complex like : >> microsoft word or keysoft or windows ce. Just a simple spell-checker. : >> heck, the artic has a simple spell-checker, it's spelling dictionary file : >> is only...oh maybe 5 or 600k at the most? oh wait a moment here what am I : >> talking about? the total memory of the artic is only 700k of text notes. : >> so the spellchecker must be about 200k if that. it's a very simple : >> spellchecker. Also, my fiance uses her bookport as a notetaker full-time : >> now since her voicenote broke on her. As an author of poetry, she uses : >> the bookport to write her poetry that she publishes as well as using it : >> to write short stories also for publishing. she writes on the bookport, : >> puts her notes onto the pc and just uses word to format and resave the : >> file in a word file format. The bookport is a good notetaker for her. and : >> it'll have to be for me also because my braillenote's going back to be : >> fixed soon also. If I want something with a serial port and braille keys : >> and a doubletalk voice I'll buy a braille n speak scholar to print with : >> and write with. if I want to have a notetaker to make microsoft word : >> files I'll use a braillenote or pacmate or dell pda with mobilespeak : >> pocket. And if I want a simple device that reads books, plays mp3s, has a : >> usb connection, does not print to any kind of printer or embosser because : >> I don't need it to, records memos, takes text notes, and hopefully : >> someday will have a simple spellchecker like that of the artic or braille : >> n speak I'll get a bookport. so like it or not, the bookport will be used : >> by both of us for both reading and notetaking, and mp3 playing. For us : >> it's a multipurpose device. And if aph can't put a spell-checker into the : >> bookport itself then perhaps there is a free spellchecker for the : >> computer that can be made to work with the transfer software. something : >> like spellcheck notes after synchronising? checked or unchecked. There : >> are various ways aph could go about implementing such a program, either : >> on the bookport's end or on the pc side of things. because it really : >> wouldn't make much sense to have a bookport and not have a pc. : >> : >> Josh : >> : >> he should try out the animal before he bought him. He took the could. The : >> Bear soon left him, for it is said he will not touch-land... A RIVER : >> carried down in its stream two Pots, one made of pounce upon in a whole : >> year. Evil wishes, like chickens, come home to roost. : >> ----- Original Message ----- : >> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij@xxxxxxxxx> : >> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> : >> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 12:59 PM : >> Subject: [bookport] Re: the holidays and bookport : >> : >> : >>> <<SOAPBOX ON>> : >>> : >>> I'm sorry ... I've tried to hold my tongue, but ... : >>> : >>> IMO the Book Port is for *reading*. Recording memos is a great adjunct : >>> but is secondary to Book Port's primary purpose. Likewise with the : >>> note-taking capability. Hence, I see no reason for the spell-check or : >>> for a myriad of recording formats to be supported. If you want : >>> spell-check, use a computer or Braille Note. If you want hi-fi : >>> recording, use a PTR-1. : >>> : >>> All the extra features add extra battery drain (ask Apple about battery : >>> life problems with their latest I-pod!). : >>> : >>> Itseems to me that APH engineers should "keep it simple, stupid"; : >>> simplicity means fewer software glitches and better battery-life. Let's : >>> use the Book Port for the purposes for which it was designed and leave : >>> the fancy stuff to others. And yes, I know; some of the other devices : >>> aren't accessible. But that's not APH's problem! : >>> : >>> <<SOAPBOX OFF>> : >>> : >>> Mike : >>> : >>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2005, David Edick wrote: : >>> : >>>> I would like to see the book port fully support recording in whatever : >>>> format : >>>> you need. Kind of like a plextalk, without the CD. : >>>> : >>>> -----Original Message----- : >>>> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx : >>>> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] : >>>> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy : >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 11:35 AM : >>>> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx : >>>> Subject: [bookport] the holidays and bookport : >>>> : >>>> Hi, : >>>> : >>>> I saw over the holidays that ipods now have video capabilities on them : >>>> and : >>>> other stuff, although their primary function is playing music. I would : >>>> like : >>>> to see 1. better recording capabilities on the bookport using the : >>>> bookport's : >>>> internal microphone. like the ability to record at 32khz or 44khz mono : >>>> 2. a : >>>> pronunciation dictionary so I can change how the speech pronounces : >>>> words : >>>> when I'm reading books such as harry potter where the speech says some : >>>> names : >>>> and things incorrectly. : >>>> 3. a spell-checker for the notetaker, similar to that of the braille 'n : >>>> speak. : >>>> 4. It would be cool also if the transfer software could through use of : >>>> the : >>>> options dialog optionally convert text files with spaces into rtf or : >>>> word : >>>> files after synchronization. I think it would be easier to do this on : >>>> the : >>>> computer end of things rather than expecting the bookport to do it. : >>>> I was told I'm getting a bookport as an early christmas present and I : >>>> can't : >>>> wait to have one! I also hope to buy a language master in a month or : >>>> two : >>>> here as well. : >>>> : >>>> Josh : >>>> : >>>> he should try out the animal before he bought him. He took the could. : >>>> The : >>>> Bear soon left him, for it is said he will not touch-land... A RIVER : >>>> carried : >>>> down in its stream two Pots, one made of pounce upon in a whole year. : >>>> Evil : >>>> wishes, like chickens, come home to roost. : >>>> : >>>> : >>>> : >>>> : >>>> : >>>> : >>> : >> : >> : >> : >> : >> -- : >> No virus found in this incoming message. : >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. : >> Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.9/185 - Release Date: : >> 28/11/2005 : >> : >> : > : > : :