[bookport] Re: the holidays and bookport

  • From: "David Tanner" <david-tanner@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:49:57 -0600

Well, this isn't the place for that discussion, but you can do all the things 
in your list with your choice of Dectalk or Eloquence speech and a Braille or 
Qwerty keyboard.  Of course you are limited to writing and reading text files; 
no Braille files, no Daisy files, no Word files, etc.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Josh Kennedy" <jkenn337@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 6:38 PM
Subject: [bookport] Re: the holidays and bookport


: If my cell phone could take notes and record, I'd put music on my cell 
: phone. In fact if it were a smart phone or pda phone, I'd probably buy 
: mobilespeak pocket for it and put that on there and use my cell phone for 
: email and the internet when I would be away from my computer. But the cell 
: phone I have does not have the ability for someone to load a screen reader 
: onto it although it does have these features. I really wish I could use the 
: calculator and alarm clock and office suite in my cell phone. But I can't 
: because they don't and never will talk. And I can see why people would want 
: cameras in their phones, so they don't have to carry around that extra piece 
: of equipment. The camera's right in the phone. just snap a picture or record 
: some video and then just email it right back home or put it onto the 
: computer for editing or later printing. It's about convenience. It's like 
: saying, ok, you can only use a touch-tone telephone a standard phone to make 
: and receive calls. You can't call freedom or pulsedata because they ask you 
: to choose options from a menu, and what you got there is just a standard 
: telephone. in order to call 1800 numbers for companies that use touchtone 
: phones you need this special touchtone box. This is a seperate piece of 
: equipment. I myself would rather just be able to choose from menu options 
: right from the convenience of my touchtone phone, rather than buy some other 
: box or piece of equipment just to call automated telephone systems. It's 
: about convenience, and what else can we make our product do which will 
: entice people to buy it. What do our customers want most? yes it's a 
: bookport, yes it reads books. but what else can we make it do? if we limit 
: it by saying it reads books and that is all it will ever do, and if it 
: doesn't evolve and get better, then people will either stop buying most 
: likely or they'll not buy nearly as much. Products have to grow and evolve 
: to meet customer demand.
: 
: Josh
: 
: he should try out the animal before he bought him. He took the could. The 
: Bear soon left him, for it is said he will not touch-land... A RIVER carried 
: down in its stream two Pots, one made of pounce upon in a whole year. Evil 
: wishes, like chickens, come home to roost.
: ----- Original Message ----- 
: From: "Tyler Wood" <tcwood12@xxxxxxx>
: To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 6:44 PM
: Subject: [bookport] Re: the holidays and bookport
: 
: 
: > yes, all I'd use a cell phone for is calling people, nothing more. And 
: > ipods shouldn't be used to play vidio files. Music is fine. What all the 
: > hype about ipod is I don't know, anyway.
: >
: > Tyler
: > ----- Original Message ----- 
: > From: "Josh Kennedy" <jkenn337@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
: > To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 1:17 PM
: > Subject: [bookport] Re: the holidays and bookport
: >
: >
: >> so then does that mean that a cell phone should just be a phone and 
: >> nothing more? A cell phone should not browse the web, not do email, not 
: >> have a calculator. it's a phone, and that's all it should be is a phone, 
: >> not a calculator or a clock or a web browser, just a phone. Should they 
: >> take the video ipods off the market also? I don't want the bookport to be 
: >> a braille n speak or braillenote. all I'm asking for is a simple 
: >> spell-checker like that which exists in the braille n speak. and a simple 
: >> calculator. and an alarm clock. and higher-level recording for those who 
: >> want to take advantage of it. if aph can't do any of these things because 
: >> of hardware limitations, fine. if they can?  that's would be wonderful 
: >> great! My point? yes it's primary purpose is for reading. yes I think it 
: >> should have a pronunciation dictionary for changing the pronunciation of 
: >> words in books. A calculator wouldn't be too hard to implement. and a 
: >> spell-checker, if done correctly wouldn't be that hard to implement 
: >> either I don't think. I'm not looking for something complex like 
: >> microsoft word or keysoft or windows ce. Just a simple spell-checker. 
: >> heck, the artic has a simple spell-checker, it's spelling dictionary file 
: >> is only...oh maybe 5 or 600k at the most? oh wait a moment here what am I 
: >> talking about? the total memory of the artic is only 700k of text notes. 
: >> so the spellchecker must be about 200k if that. it's a very simple 
: >> spellchecker. Also, my fiance uses her bookport as a notetaker full-time 
: >> now since her voicenote broke on her. As an author of poetry, she uses 
: >> the bookport to write her poetry that she publishes as well as using it 
: >> to write short stories also for publishing. she writes on the bookport, 
: >> puts her notes onto the pc and just uses word to format and resave the 
: >> file in a word file format. The bookport is a good notetaker for her. and 
: >> it'll have to be for me also because my braillenote's going back to be 
: >> fixed soon also. If I want something with a serial port and braille keys 
: >> and a doubletalk voice I'll buy a braille n speak scholar to print with 
: >> and write with. if I want to have a notetaker to make microsoft word 
: >> files I'll use a braillenote or pacmate or dell pda with mobilespeak 
: >> pocket. And if I want a simple device that reads books, plays mp3s, has a 
: >> usb connection, does not print to any kind of printer or embosser because 
: >> I don't need it to, records memos, takes text notes, and hopefully 
: >> someday will have a simple spellchecker like that of the artic or braille 
: >> n speak I'll get a bookport. so like it or not, the bookport will be used 
: >> by both of us for both reading and notetaking, and mp3 playing. For us 
: >> it's a multipurpose device. And if aph can't put a spell-checker into the 
: >> bookport itself then perhaps there is a free spellchecker for the 
: >> computer that can be made to work with the transfer software. something 
: >> like spellcheck notes after synchronising? checked or unchecked. There 
: >> are various ways aph could go about implementing such a program, either 
: >> on the bookport's end or on the pc side of things. because it really 
: >> wouldn't make much sense to have a bookport and not have a pc.
: >>
: >> Josh
: >>
: >> he should try out the animal before he bought him. He took the could. The 
: >> Bear soon left him, for it is said he will not touch-land... A RIVER 
: >> carried down in its stream two Pots, one made of pounce upon in a whole 
: >> year. Evil wishes, like chickens, come home to roost.
: >> ----- Original Message ----- 
: >> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij@xxxxxxxxx>
: >> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: >> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 12:59 PM
: >> Subject: [bookport] Re: the holidays and bookport
: >>
: >>
: >>> <<SOAPBOX ON>>
: >>>
: >>> I'm sorry ... I've tried to hold my tongue, but ...
: >>>
: >>> IMO the Book Port is for *reading*. Recording memos is a great adjunct 
: >>> but is secondary to Book Port's primary purpose. Likewise with the 
: >>> note-taking capability. Hence, I see no reason for the spell-check or 
: >>> for a myriad of recording formats to be supported. If you want 
: >>> spell-check, use a computer or Braille Note. If you want hi-fi 
: >>> recording, use a PTR-1.
: >>>
: >>> All the extra features add extra battery drain (ask Apple about battery 
: >>> life problems with their latest I-pod!).
: >>>
: >>> Itseems to me that APH engineers should  "keep it simple, stupid"; 
: >>> simplicity means fewer software glitches and better battery-life. Let's 
: >>> use the Book Port for the purposes for which it was designed and leave 
: >>> the fancy stuff to others. And yes, I know; some of the other devices 
: >>> aren't accessible. But that's not APH's problem!
: >>>
: >>> <<SOAPBOX OFF>>
: >>>
: >>> Mike
: >>>
: >>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2005, David Edick wrote:
: >>>
: >>>> I would like to see the book port fully support recording in whatever 
: >>>> format
: >>>> you need. Kind of like a plextalk, without the CD.
: >>>>
: >>>> -----Original Message-----
: >>>> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
: >>>> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
: >>>> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
: >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 11:35 AM
: >>>> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: >>>> Subject: [bookport] the holidays and bookport
: >>>>
: >>>> Hi,
: >>>>
: >>>> I saw over the holidays that ipods now have video capabilities on them 
: >>>> and
: >>>> other stuff, although their primary function is playing music. I would 
: >>>> like
: >>>> to see 1. better recording capabilities on the bookport using the 
: >>>> bookport's
: >>>> internal microphone. like the ability to record at 32khz or 44khz mono 
: >>>> 2. a
: >>>> pronunciation dictionary so I can change how the speech pronounces 
: >>>> words
: >>>> when I'm reading books such as harry potter where the speech says some 
: >>>> names
: >>>> and things incorrectly.
: >>>> 3. a spell-checker for the notetaker, similar to that of the braille 'n
: >>>> speak.
: >>>> 4. It would be cool also if the transfer software could through use of 
: >>>> the
: >>>> options dialog optionally convert text files with spaces into rtf or 
: >>>> word
: >>>> files after synchronization. I think it would be easier to do this on 
: >>>> the
: >>>> computer end of things rather than expecting the bookport to do it.
: >>>> I was told I'm getting a bookport as an early christmas present and I 
: >>>> can't
: >>>> wait to have one! I also hope to buy a language master in a month or 
: >>>> two
: >>>> here as well.
: >>>>
: >>>> Josh
: >>>>
: >>>> he should try out the animal before he bought him. He took the could. 
: >>>> The
: >>>> Bear soon left him, for it is said he will not touch-land... A RIVER 
: >>>> carried
: >>>> down in its stream two Pots, one made of pounce upon in a whole year. 
: >>>> Evil
: >>>> wishes, like chickens, come home to roost.
: >>>>
: >>>>
: >>>>
: >>>>
: >>>>
: >>>>
: >>>
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >>
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