[bookport] Re: Progress and the Book Port

  • From: "Otto Zamora" <8zamora@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:45:29 -0500

Hello,

Something like the player my friend has might be the answer, it has a hard
disc, but also has a memory slot giving you the best of both worlds.
From the USB port he can transfer files to a card reader without the use of
a computer, using the software that is in the player.

Otto 

-----Original Message-----
From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of David Tanner
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 5:50 PM
To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bookport] Re: Progress and the Book Port

I would say stay away from a hard disk if at all possible, much more chance
of mechanical problems.  Stick with  memory cards.  I am not opposed to
flash memory cards of any size, and I wish they wouldpush the limit on
memory cards as they possibly can while they are working on it.  I saw a
message the other day that there is now a 12 gigabyte memory card already on
the market for the amazing low price of $7,200.  Two years from now it will
cost $150 and everybody will be running out to the store to buy one.  But,
it would be nice if APH would consider adding a slot for SD memory cards
since they do seem to be becoming much more popular.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 3:36 PM
Subject: [bookport] Re: Progress and the Book Port


: Bruce:
: 
: While your post is of good intention and I won't take much time to 
: belabor the points you make, I feel that you mischaracterize those of us 
: who are less into "wish-lists" than are some others on the list.
: 
: For example, I would not be opposed to having a HD in the Book Port -- 
: when one costs $10 and takes 5 ma to operate. Moreover, I think it may 
: well be debatable whether APH should go the HD route with solid-state 
: memory becoming ever cheaper.
: 
: And I tend to feel that rampant featuritis is a bad thing from hard 
: experience. The Blazie note-takers are a prime example. There are still 
: a few bugs even in the latest firmware -- bugs which I would have 
: ordered squashed at the cost of foregoing a few features *until* said 
: bugs were squashed. How many times have we heard blind users of 
: screen-reading software, note-takers and the like *pleading* with 
: manufacturers to squash bugs rather than add features? How easily this 
: can be done is a matter for another time and place.
: 
: If a higher-powered processor can be put on board the Book Port that 
: will allow more functionality for *the* *same* *price,* well and good. 
: But until that time, I think it better to keep the primary purpose of 
: the Book Port in mind. right in line with this is the work on handling 
: 4-gig Flash cards. Also -- one hopes -- squashing that D+E+F bug. And it 
: would be nice to have several levels of RESET so that one didn't zap the 
: clock while resetting things unlesss absolutely necessary.
: 
: So I'm not opposed to "progress". Rahter, I would like progress focused.
: 
: Different strokes ...
: 
: Mike
: 
: On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, Bruce Toews wrote:
: 
: > One of the recurring topics on this list is that of feature suggestions
and 
: > why they should or should not be implemented. People have very strong 
: > viewpoints on this issue, and they tend to polarize users into two
camps, two 
: > camps which rather vehemently oppose each other. One camp views the BP
as a 
: > complete solution as is, and feel very strongly that no changes should
be 
: > implemented, as making such changes would dilute the existing features,
or 
: > add new functionality that opposes the BP's original purpose. A classic 
: > example of this is something I saw on a list for the Book Courier, in
which 
: > one person said that what makes the Book Courier so much better than the
Book 
: > Port is the fact that it doesn't have a note-taking feature, as the Book
Port 
: > does.
: >
: > The other camp, the camp to which I personally subscribe, feels that the
Book 
: > Port is a great unit, and that great things can be made even greater,
that 
: > the truly great products continue to evolve. Anyone who saw the Braille
'n 
: > Speak evolve before Blazie Engineering was swallowed up by Freedom
Scientific 
: > will know what can be achieved through this sort of thinking. The
eveolution 
: > of the computer, once thought of as only useful for crunching numbers,
is 
: > another. People in this second camp believe that the Book Port, too, can
be 
: > such an example.
: >
: > Over the course of its existence, the Braille 'n Speak became more
powerful, 
: > more flexible, more versatile, and it did so while battery life
increased as 
: > opposed to decreasing. It outgrew the limitations of just being a
notetaker, 
: > while at the same time staying true to the needs of that original
purpose.
: >
: > One of the arguments I hear again and again is that the Book Port is a
book 
: > reader, and it should not be anything else. This is the path taken by
the 
: > Book Courier, and there's nothing wrong with it. But APH has seen fit to

: > expand the usefulness of the unit. It has flown against the conventional

: > wisdom which says that, if you want a notetaker, you ahve to shell out 
: > thousands of dollars to do it.  This probably irritates some of the
people 
: > who have been in the business of either designing, selling, or procuring
the 
: > multi-thousand-dollar notetakers, becasue the Book Port is available for
a 
: > few hundred dollars, and for it to seriously rival one of the "big boys"

: > would seriously challenge the conventional wisdom, and force those who
claim 
: > that you need to fork over thousands for a decent notetaker to seriously

: > rethink those claims. It's not a lot of fun to find the book from which 
: > you've been preaching for years to be totally discredited. The
flat-earth 
: > hold-outs are still struggling with it.
: > Another argument against increased functionality is that increased 
: > functionality yields increased bugs. My only answer to this is: Nothing 
: > ventured, nothing gained.
: >
: > Another argument suggests that the long life of batteries would be 
: > compromised by increased functionality. I submit that my current
cellphone 
: > lasts twenty times longer than did my first on one battery charge, is
much 
: > more powerful, is smaller, and much faster. My Braille Lite M20 lasts at

: > least ten times longer on a charge than the first braille 'n speak, is
only 
: > slightly larger (and this because of the addition of the braille
display), is 
: > much faster, and much more versatile and efficient. People seem to
forget 
: > that technology has come a long way since the original technology behind
the 
: > Book Port was introduced: it's faster, it's cheaper, it's more
efficient, and 
: > consumes less, not more, power.
: >
: > Finally, I suggest that if one likes things the way they are, one is not

: > obligated to turn in their unit. If you don't want the new progress,
fine, 
: > but why stop the rest of us? Is there insecurity among some because they
have 
: > always felt at the forefront of technology, but now don't want to move
on, 
: > yet they still want to be at the forefront, so the best way of handling
that 
: > insecurity is to stop the progress so they'll remain at the forefront
without 
: > moving? I can relate to this. I wanted to stay with Dos. I wanted
efforts to 
: > make Windows speak to be quelled so I could stay at the forefront of 
: > technology without moving. Eventually, I grew up and moved on, and I'm
glad I 
: > did.
: >
: > The basis for the Book Port is exciting. But I truly believe that, in
the 
: > future, if we can replace some 1990's technology and some 1990's
thinking 
: > with some 21st-century technology and thinking, the opportunity exists
to 
: > keep the Book Port what it once was: a device which does what it wasn't 
: > thought could be done, affordably, and efficiently. It's a wonderful, 
: > fabulous unit. But the talking MP3-players are whizzing past it, or at
least 
: > preparing to. Others are innovating. The Book Courier is sticking to its

: > roots. The Book Port has the potential to take flight with the rest.
: >
: > Finally, whether or not any of this happens is not our decision,
ultimatelhy. 
: > It's APH's. I honestly belive that these people know what they're doing;
they 
: > know if an idea is doable; they know what's realistic and what's not;
they 
: > know what the Book Port can become and what it can't.
: > End of lecture. <GRIN>
: >
: > Brce
: >
: > -- 
: > Bruce Toews
: > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx
: > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
: > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
: >
: >
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