[blindreplay] Re: Attention Window-Eyes 6.1: Feedback needed
- From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrakigianos-giasou@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: blindreplay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 17:40:00 -0700 (PDT)
Hi
Glad to hear from you and your feedback on this. Appreciate it.
All comments are welcomed here. I bought Window-Eyes to assist
Applian Technologies and the blind PC users who use some of the
Applian products with my own money and time because I believe in
their products and the great staff there. I have already
contacted CEO Bill Dettering on this issue with the menus and
context menu. At the time you grought up the issues there was no
way for me to recognize the issues W-Eyes users were
experiencing. I did not hear loud complaints. Today I saw the
issues with the menus so I wrote to Bill about it.
I posted the issue on the Window-Eyes mailing list. The list
owned by GW Micro who own Window-Eyes. (For Leslie to know)
I am so glad you wrote your message to this list. It makes a
difference.
Having a dialogue is a good thing.
I hope to hear something soon from Applian.
Are there any other W-Eyes users out there who want to comment?
Petro
--- pasquale acquaviva <noahpeal73107@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello to Petro, Mike, and the list,
>
> I brought up this menu issue with Window-Eyes quite a
> while ago, around the time that Replay A/V 8 first
> made its appearance. I to am extremely surprised that
> noone seemed to think it important enough to make
> further mention of it. If anyone else recalls, I
> stated something to the effect that certain items in
> the submenu were "ghosted"; that is the only way I
> could characterize this repetition of some, but not
> all, of A/V's menu item choices.
>
> While it is certainly true that these issues do not
> pose any major problem with either the access,
> operability, or performance of the features
> in RAV, it does give a rather sloppy appearance to the
> RAV menu interface, as Rick Alfaro correctly observed
> last night. Frankly, I must admit that, given this
> sloppy appearance, I prefer to work with the slicker
> appearance of RAV 7's button interface. I realize
> that this is just a personal preference. I've had
> both RAV 7 and 8 loaded on this machine, but my pc's
> 28 gigabyte hard drive no longer permits such luxury.
> I have been forced to remove one of RAV's versions,
> and that one was RAV 8.
>
> Petro, in all candor, I don't think I could say that
> "JAWS kicks Window-Eyes big time"
> as far as RAV is concerned. I've been a JAWS user at
> one time and I remember all too well when JAWS had a
> terrible time with the menus of some Windows
> applications. I have scripted some applications for
> JAWS, though I cannot honestly state that I am
> thoroughly proficient in the art of scripting. I
> don't know what the limitation of scripting languages
> will impose on Window-Eyes, but I do know that the
> ability to reclass certain application controls
> greatly limited the capabilities of previous JFW
> versions.
>
> The ability of Window-Eyes to work with RAV versions 7
> and 8 right out of the box without the need for using
> set files is pretty impressive.
>
> To my way of thinking, GW Micro has had precious
> little to say about set files, their capabilities, and
> limitations--a little bit of a thorn in the flesh, as
> far as I am concerned. Thus, I cannot comment
> intelligently and at length as to how the current
> system of set file development can be used to
> alleviate or thoroughly eliminate the RAV
> problem that is currently under discussion. I can,
> nonetheless state that I have great confidence in the
> potential capability of Window-Eyes to rise to the
> challenge of making a really neat RAV application look
> even neater.
>
> I sincerely apologize for this rather lengthy message.
>
> Regards
> - --
> Pat Acquaviva
>
>
> --- "Petro T. Giannakopoulos"
> <petrakigianos-giasou@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Mike
> > I understand now. So basically in this case JAWS
> > kicks
> > Window-Eyes big time. I ran Window-Eyes here the
> > little I know
> > and saw the issues with the menus after talking to
> > another user
> > about it.
> >
> > I heard no file menu here. Also some options in the
> > menus and
> > context menus repeat twice with 2 different hotkeys
> > like for the
> > duplicate option.
> >
> > What amazes me is no one brought it up all this
> > time.
> >
> > Another user said something about adjusting the
> > cursor read can
> > be adjusted. I will post his message as soon as he
> > gives me
> > permission.
> >
> > Petro
> >
> > --- Mike Pietruk <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Petro
> > >
> > > A set file isn't a script; rather it is a series
> > of files in
> > > which a
> > > particular application's display, action,
> > functionality are
> > > controlled.
> > > They do, in many ways, do the same things that
> > scripts do.
> > >
> > > Now that you mention this, I see this kind of
> > beehavior with
> > > many programs
> > > and have never thought of it as a problem though
> > perhaps it
> > > is.
> > > I am not certain how important of a program
> > GWmicro view RAV
> > > as being; so
> > > these kinds of things likely would have to be
> > fixed by an end
> > > user being
> > > annoyed enough to play around and figure out how
> > to get around
> > > this.
> > > I am sure it can be done; wehter anyone would deem
> > this worth
> > > doing and
> > > then sharing may be a whole different matter.
> > > I am taking this to mean that JFW handles these
> > kinds of
> > > display
> > > matters more seamlessly.
> > >
> > >
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