Bob, you're not getting it. Take for example what Carl correctly said about the
Green party not having any chance to win. With that being established as a
constant what is the effect of voting for that no chance party? The answer is a
benefit to the GOP, as any vote against their rival (DNC) is worth the same for
them as a direct GOP vote would, it is a number in the plus column for the GOP.
Actually, I'll take that a step further and go as far as to say that the GOP
actually *wants* us to vote for the Green party. Why you ask? Simply if we vote
directly for the GOP they would be forced to acknowledge us. However voting for
the Green party gives them that plus in the win column and allows them to be
dismissive of us as merely a bunch of fringe radicals. As far as conscience
goes, if someone already is aware of that first constant we spoke about above
and still performs an action (voting Green) that, by design, strictly benefits
the GOP; then what does that tell you about their conscience? You may not like
it, may not acknowledge it, or even be aware of it; but elections have
consequences. Now if my memory serves me correctly, I believe it was you who, a
few months back, said in reference to voting third party that if "a republican
gets elected then so be it". Well take a look at the two supreme court cases
decided today (reproductive rights and gun control) and think about how the
court will change with Mr. GOP in office as opposed to someone else. I fully
understand that voting Green may feel really good on election day but try
explaining that to the women of Texas on January 18, 2017. As I said there is
no plan B morning after pill for elections and there won't be for Texas women
either if Mr. GOP is allowed to win.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Hachey
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 11:42 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: CBS this morning
Hi Frank,
I want to be sure I am understanding you correctly. ARE you saying that
folks on this list such as Carl, Miriam and myself have GOP leanings? ARE
you saying that just because we express concerns over voting for Clinton
that we secretly favor the GOP or Trump? Also, are you saying that voting
one's conscience in 2016 is a selfish act? Heck, I always thought that the
point of a democracy is for every citizen to vote his or her conscience. By
the way, Miriam and others have posted here oodles of articles critical of
Trump and many other Republicans.
I challenge you to make the case for how Miriam or any others of us on this
list who have reservations about Clinton are or may be closet Republicans.
While I agree with you that I don't want to see Trump become president, I
believe even more strongly that we have a very badly broken system and that
both parties are to blame. Perhaps the Republicans deserve more of the
blame, but the Democrats are not completely innocent. For more on the guilt
of democrats and liberals please do read "listen Liberal" by Thomas frank.
By the way, I seriously doubt that Thomas Frank is a closet Republican.
Bob Hachey
