Carl, I was writing about those people who were interviewed this morning who,
themselves were calling their votes protest votes. In you last message you said
you wouldn't have any regrets if you woke up the day after the election and
found out Trump was president? Do you think all Green party voters will feel
the same and do you have the fortitude to hold them to it?
Frank
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From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 12:41 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: CBS this morning
Good Morning Frank. Did you have a bad night? Wake up a bit crotchety?
I think labeling those of us voting for other than the Establishment's
candidates, Hillary or Donald, as Protest votes, is attempting to make us into
something that you can deal with, but not who we really are.
Speaking only for myself, I am no longer represented by either political
party's presidential candidate. In fact, I have very little in common with my
two senators, my one congressperson or the governor of my state.
But I defend my right to refuse to vote for any person not willing to represent
me...to at least a small degree.
To those who believe the Establishment does represent their best interests, go
for it. But don't call those of us who are pushed to the side of the road and
whose needs are ignored, as little protesters. The issue here is, does the
American Corporate Empire have enough of the working class interests at heart
to make it worth their vote? Is the direction this Empire is headed going to
bring about a better world for All, or just for a small percentage? Are we
headed for the edge of extinction, or will some of us survive the coming wars
and upheavals?
At this point in time I plan to vote for Jill Stein for president.
Not a protest vote, but a call for a return to reason.
Carl Jarvis
On 6/26/16, Frank Ventura <frank.ventura@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Actually the judgement is all their own, when they complain all about
the consequences of their own actions. And, yes elections have
consequences. In the fall when the protestors here in the US elect a
republican president, will they be happy and content with that choice
or will they complain, which is a form of self-judgement. Further to
the point, why do those protestors think they are so special that they
can get their rocks off making themselves happy with their little
protest votes while believing that it is up to the rest of society to
keep their precious little protest votes just that protest votes. That
is one possibility, the other is that these so-called protestors are
really closet republicans looking for any excuse to put the GOP in
office. This may very well be the case when you hear all of the
anti-DNC rhetoric and never even hear a peep coming from the same
people about the GOP. Don't believe name, then reread the messages
posted here; even the one I am replying too. The pro=GOP stance is
very evident in these "protestors", "radicals" or "revolutionaries"; or
whatever BS label they call themselves today.
Frank
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From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Miriam ;
Vieni
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 11:51 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: CBS this morning
And what will happen when Hillary is elected? We'll have even more
wars, a continuation of our subservience to the financial industry and
big corporations, continued erosion of our civil liberties, greater
economic inequality which will begin to be felt by people who consider
themselves to be middle class and immune to the indignity of poverty,
a continuation of institutionalized racism with police murders of
people of color going unchecked, continued deportation of poor
immigrants of color regardless of their situation, increasing medical
costs for people who have medical insurance, continued disregard of
how our handling of fossil fuels is fueling the catastrophe of global
warming, and all of it camouflaged by the language of social justice,
freedom, and equality. I've posted at least 3 articles which indicate
why some people voted for Brexit and what the consequences may be.
Our situation is very complicated and those of us who choose to cling
to the status quo are like the frog in the pot of water which is
slowly heating on the stove, moving toward the boiling point. So let's not
judge people too harshly for the choices they make.
Miriam
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From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank ;
Ventura
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 9:20 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] CBS this morning
CBS this morning ran a piece about the British vote and made a big
point of how many Brits are now saying that they regret their vote and
that they only voted for it as a protest vote thinking that it could
never pass. This is the reality of these "protest votes". It may make
the person feel good but wait until the morning after. This greatly
foreshadows what will happen here in the US in November as all of
these portest votes will only put the GOP in the White House and come
the morning after said protestors will be complaining of got elected.
