[bksvol-discuss] Re: volunteers : was: A Plan for More Work (was Acdcent Marks)

  • From: Ixchel <starsandhearts2@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 23:11:15 -0400

Hi Roger,
I don't think every book a submitter does should be placed on "hold." I think 
some books should. For example, if a submitter and proofer are doing a series.
Jackie

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On Jun 4, 2012, at 11:03 PM, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> Since the subject is up I may as well say this. I never have liked the 
> practice of holding books for certain proofreaders very well. I know that 
> there are legitimate reasons for it and, in fact, in the past I have 
> mentioned scanning a certain book and placing a hold on it at someone's 
> request. I realize that certain people may be especially qualified to proof a 
> certain book. A book that requires a sighted proofer is an example and 
> another example might be when only one person has a print copy to check for 
> certain errors. The practice of holding each and every submission for 
> someone, though, strikes me as cliquish. It kind of freezes out new proofers 
> and it gives the impression of a certain in group that one must figure out 
> how to break into. I usually do not say anything about it, though, because of 
> all the quite legitimate reasons to hold a book for someone. However, for the 
> most part I just quietly scan what I can get hold of and submit it. It is up 
> for grabs.
> 
> On 6/4/2012 10:53 PM, Susan Lumpkin wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Roger,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> That’s how I feel about proofing! Larry and I usually work together as a 
>> team but he is willing to scan for others! I haven’t proofed for a while and 
>> may or may not get back  to it, not really sure! Before I took my break, I 
>> had proofread for 8 years without much of one!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Susan
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger Loran Bailey
>> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 9:31 PM
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: volunteers : was: A Plan for More Work (was 
>> Acdcent Marks)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I think it is for those who want to do it. Personally, I don't care to 
>> participate. I prefer to scan whatever I can get my hands on whenever I can 
>> get my hands on it and to scan at my leisure without feeling the pressure to 
>> get something done for someone else. When I am ready I just upload whatever 
>> I have been working on and let anyone proof it when they get to it first.
>> 
>> On 6/4/2012 10:50 PM, Judy s. wrote:
>> 
>> Am I missing something here?
>> 
>> Is this new list of who likes what that's going to be used to create paired 
>> scanners and proofreaders supposed to be for just those volunteers who like 
>> the idea, or are all of us suddenly being asked to jump on another bandwagon?
>> 
>> If this is intended for all volunteers, it has all the potential to be yet 
>> another administrative nightmare, and would make no sense to me. 
>> 
>> Just my (somewhat jaded) opinion! smile.
>> 
>> Judy
>> 
>> On 6/4/2012 6:59 PM, Mayrie ReNae wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Lori,  
>>    
>> As well  as the privacy issue, I agree completely with you.  
>>    
>> Mayrie  
>>    
>>    
>>    
>> -----Original Message-----  
>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  
>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lori Castner  
>> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 5:44 PM  
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: volunteers : was: A Plan for More Work (was  
>> Acdcent Marks)  
>>    
>> I think that Ann Parsons said this earlier, but I am totally baffled by the  
>> need for yet another list and for the complexities everyone is creating.  
>> I have been a volunteer for about five years, and several times when I  
>> proofread a book of interest to me I contacted the submitter and asked if  
>> that person would let me know when they had a certain type of book available 
>>  
>> or simply stated that I would be glad to proofead some of their future  
>> submissions.  I have developed several good working relationships through  
>> this method.  
>> Also, if someone wants a proofreader for a specific type of book that  
>> request can be mentioned on the volunteer list. Sure it takes a while to  
>> develop working relationships, but whatever happened to human interaction.  
>> Creating a list to pair submitters and proofreaders seems to me to be a  
>> beaurocratic nightmare.  
>>    
>> Lori C.   
>>    
>>    
>> -----Original Message-----  
>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  
>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sue Stevens  
>> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 5:06 PM  
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: volunteers : was: A Plan for More Work (was  
>> Acdcent Marks)  
>>    
>>    
>> It does seem that Bookshare wants to control everything!  We are not allowed 
>>  
>> to decide who gets our credits, and now we must submit our names to a list!! 
>>  
>>    
>> The free spirit volunteering used to have is gone!!!!  Personally, I do not  
>> like being controlled to this point!  
>>    
>> Sue S.  
>>    
>>    
>> -----Original Message-----  
>> From: Sandi Ryan  
>> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 6:13 PM  
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: volunteers : was: A Plan for More Work (was  
>> Acdcent Marks)  
>>    
>> Hi Jackie,  
>>    
>> Yes, that would be my idea.  It sounds like it would be harder to manage  
>> than I hoped, but perhaps if Madeleine puts the lists together, at least we  
>> can contact Bookshare staff and ask who might be interested in partnering on 
>>  
>> particular projects.  
>>    
>> It doesn't sound as efficient that way.  What I was hoping for was more  
>> efficiency in the process so that someone with an idea could contact someone 
>>  
>> who could partner.  Perhaps it will grow over time.  
>>    
>> Sandi  
>>    
>> ----- Original Message -----  
>> From: "Ixchel, Jackie" <starsandhearts2@xxxxxxxxx>  
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
>> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:22 PM  
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: volunteers : was: A Plan for More Work (was  
>> Acdcent Marks)  
>>    
>>    
>> Hi,  
>> Sandy, that's a great idea. Even though there are a lot of PQ books   
>> out there, there are still more that will never be submitted.  
>> One question, with your suggestion, are you saying that if a proofer   
>> or scanner likes a book that is not on the site, they contact a   
>> scanner or prooffer to see if they will do it? I think that's what you   
>> said but I want to clarify.  
>> Jackie  
>>    
>> On 6/4/12, Sandi Ryan <sjryan2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:  
>> Hi Ann,  
>>    
>> The purpose is that a proofreader longing for a book to proof could   
>> contact  
>>    
>> a known scanner and ask if they'd be willing to scan it.  A scanner   
>> with a book that needs proofing could check with a proofreader or two   
>> to see if they'd do it.  It just seems more efficient to me than   
>> tossing a book out there on the checkout without a hold and hoping it   
>> gets taken.  And I was hoping, also, to rouse some interest among   
>> proofers to peruse booklists and  
>>    
>> sites for books not in the collection that they'd like to proof, then   
>> work with a scanner to get the book, scan and submit it, and hold it   
>> for the person who contacted them.  
>>    
>> Anyway, long explanation.  Sorry.  
>>    
>> Sandi  
>>    
>> ----- Original Message -----  
>> From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>  
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
>> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 6:36 AM  
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: volunteers : was: A Plan for More Work   
>> (was Acdcent Marks)  
>>    
>>    
>> Hi all,  
>>    
>> Why go through all this?  The email and name of the scanner is   
>> listed in the Book History.  I don't understand the need for a separate  
>> list.  
>> Ann P.  
>>    
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